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1841 Census - HENRY WEBSTER
« on: Wednesday 31 October 07 22:36 GMT (UK) »
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The above Henry Webster was convicted in Cambridge of Highway Robbery on 19/3/1841 and transported to Tasmania in 1842. 
I'm not sure when the 1841 Cenus was taken or even if prisoners were included, but if someone could have a look for him please.  He would have been about 21 years of age and a native of Norwich, Norfolk.

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Re: 1841 Census - HENRY WEBSTER
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 November 07 17:36 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 was taken on 6th June

There is no Henry Webster at all in Cambridge.  There are 2 in Norfolk, both aged 20 but both were "free" not prisoners
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Re: 1841 Census - HENRY WEBSTER
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 November 07 04:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Carole for that information......it looks as though Henry was already sent to Plymouth or had left England.   He arrived on the HMS Tortoise here in Hobart in February 1842.  Not sure how long the voyage would have taken, I might perhaps ask for a look up in the Plymouth area just to make sure.

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Re: 1841 Census - HENRY WEBSTER
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 November 07 05:16 GMT (UK) »
There's no Henry Webster anywhere in England that fits your criteria ie prisoner born 1821 +/-5

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Re: 1841 Census - HENRY WEBSTER
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 November 07 08:04 GMT (UK) »
from  http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tcowley/Ships.htm#Tortoise

The HMS Tortoise made one trip as a convict transport. She was a naval ship of 1000 tons.  Her master was Captain J HOOD, R.N. and her surgeon was Thomas BROWNRIGG. 

HMS Tortoise departed Plymouth on 26 October 1841, taking 116 days, without stopping, to reach Hobart on 19 February 1842.  She embarked 400 male prisoners of which three were relanded and three died on the voyage.  Thus 294 male convicts were disembarked at Hobart.

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http://www.geocities.com/bleyshan41/leyshon/tortoise.html


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Re: 1841 Census - HENRY WEBSTER
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 November 07 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank you David & johnP regarding the whereabouts of Henry (and the HMS Tortoise).
I wonder where the prisoners were at the Census time until the departure....I have drawn a blank for Henry at the Devon site and now that David has given the no show for the rest of the country!!!.
The dates given by johnP work out correctly, but Henry was convicted in March 1841 - the ship didn't leave until October 1841.........curiouser & curiouser!!. 

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Re: 1841 Census - HENRY WEBSTER
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 November 07 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello, I thought, but may be wrong, that prisoners at census time, got recorded by just their initials
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Re: 1841 Census - HENRY WEBSTER
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 November 07 22:15 GMT (UK) »
So Henry was in prison (somewhere) and now having prisoners recorded with just their initials would just be about my luck! ::) 
Thank you for telling me that little gem, I again wonder why the prisoners would have been recorded with initials......perhaps knowing that they weren't going to feature in any other Census' taken, what would be the point of knowing their details?  All the Government would need to know was 'how many' were transported in the Census year!

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Thomas, Burn - Gwennap,Cornwall
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