lokking for Cowie's

[sandy5088]

I am trying to get some information on George Muir Cowie. He was married to Helen Frame who i think was born on 31st dec 1879 and had a son called Archibald Fleming Cowie who was born on 21st aug 1898. Archibald was my grandfather. This is a starting point to doing the whole family tree, the people who can help me in the family have all passed away and i live way out in Australia, so it is proving difficult. If anyone has any of the information hanging around that may be helpful it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Sandy.

[runningbear]

hi sandy,

welcome to rootschat, seems we have lost all replies that was made this morning, but do not worry we can start again..

Joe

[runningbear]

hi pal,

will start from the begining with richard cowie and mary ann hay who were the parents of your george.

seems that from the census details the cowie's where born in airdrie and died in airdrie.

richard and mary ann were married in airdrie in october 1841 and i will follow shortly with all the census details as i have most already just to sort out george's brothers.

Joe

[Annette7]

I think the date you have for Helen Frames birth is more likely to be her marriage date.   Helen Frame was b.10/4/1857 New Monkland, d. John Frame and Rachel Somers.

1871 Census - New Monkland, Lanarkshire at 5 Blacksquare

John Frame      53        Fireman at Tubework     b. Dalserf, Lanarkshire
Rachael Frame  51                                             b.      ditto
Jane Frame       20                                             b. Airdrie, Lanarkshire
Janet Frame      17                                                     ditto
Marion Frame     15                                                    ditto
Helen Frame       12                                                    ditto
Thomas Frame    9                                                      ditto
Margaret Frame (or France)   7   g/dau.                      ditto

Hope this helps.

Annette

[sancti]

Marriage record is on SP and will confirm both their parents names and wether they are still alive at time of marriage


1880 COWIE GEORGE MUIR married FRAME HELEN at AIRDRIE OR NEW MONKLAND

[runningbear]

hi sandy,

time for census details...

1841 census- craig street, airdie

richard...age 25...miner


1851 census- 3 craig street, airdrie

richard...age 37...ironstone miner...born airdie
mary ann...age 30...born montrose
archibald...age 3
richard...age 9 months

1861 census- 11 craig street, airdrie

richard...age 46...coal miner
mary ann...age 40
archibald...age 14...coal miner
richard...age 12...coal miner
john...age 9
george...age 4

richard cowir marries elizabeth mcarthur 31/12/1869

1871 census- 2 louisa land, airdrie

richard...age 57...colliery manager
mary ann...age 51
archibald...age 23...coal miner
john...age 18...coal miner
george...age 13...pony driver
david...age 8

1871 census- 365 duke street, glasgow

richard...age 26...coal master
elizabeth...age 21
george...age 4
euphemia...age 5 months (born 31/10/1870)

archibald cowie marries helen fleming 31/12/1872

john cowie marries christina sneddon 14/5/1875

1881 census- 11 alexander street, airdrie

richard...age 69...watchman
mary ann...age 66
david...age 18...barber's assistant
william...lodger...age 42...coal miner

1881 census- 24 flowerhill street, airdrie

george m...age 22...miner
helen...age 22
rachel...age 4 months

1881 census- 82 clark street, airdie

john...age 28 coal miner
christina...age 26
mary...age 5
john...age 1

1881 census- 23 johnston street, airdie

archibald...age 33...coal miner
helen..age 27
richard...age 7
john...age 5
archibald...age 1

1881 census- 63 alexander street, airdrie

richard...age 30...labourer
elizabeth...age 31
euphemia...age 10
richard...age 6
mary ann...age 4
alexander...age 2
isabella...age 4 months

1891 census- 45 aitcheson street, airdrie

mary ann...age 71
david...age 27...hair dresser

1891 census- 14 alexander street, airdie

george m...age 33...tube worker
helen...age 33
mary ann...age 8
rachel...age 5
helen...age 1

1891 census- 76 johnston street, airdrie

john...age 37...hair dresser
christina...age 35
mary ann...age 15...mill worker
john...age 11...hair dresser's assistant
archibald...age 9
jane...age 7
richard...age 4
margaret...age 2

1891 census- 18 callon street, airdrie

archibald...age 42...underground manager
helen...age 36
richard...age 17...coal miner
john...age 14...postal clerk
archibald...age 11

1891 census- 69 alexander street, airdrie

richard...age 39...iron worker
elizabeth...age 39
euphemia...age 20...general servant
richard...age 16...hair dresser
mary ann...age 14...general servant
alexander...age 12...hair dresser
isabella...age 10
archibald...age 8
george...age 8
elizabeth...age 1

1901 census- 17 alexander street, airdrie

george m...age 43...tube worker foreman
helen...age 43
helen...age 11
george...age 6
archibald...age 2

1901 census- 14 academy place, airdrie

archibald...age 53...underground colliery manager
helen...age 47
john...age 24...electricial accessories traveller
archibald...age 21...electricial accessories traveller

1901 census- 311 muiryhall street, coatbridge

richard...age 50...tube worker labourer
elizabeth...age 51
mary ann...age 24
alexander...age 22...tube worker
archibald...age 18...heater
george m...age 18...steam hamier driver
elizabeth...age 11

1901 census- 9 deedes street, airdrie

john...age 48...tube worker
christina...age 45
john...age 21...hair dresser
archibald...age 19...brick layer
jane...age 17...mill worker
richard...age 15
margaret...age 12
george ...age 10
christina...age 7
thomasine...age 3
david...brother...age 37...hair dresser


joe

[runningbear]

hi sandy,

looks like your helen frame was the daughter of john and rachel somers born 10/4/1859.

big thanks to annette for the 1871 census and to santi for the marriage details, hopefully some kind soul will visit the igi's for you for more details.

1851 census- 122 grahame street

john...age 32...curling stone maker
rachel...age 29
margaret..age 4
rachel...age 2

1861 census- airdrie

john...age 40...coal miner
rachel..age 38...mill worker
margaret...age 13...mill worker
rachel...age 11...mill worker
jane...age 9
janet...age 6
marion...age 4
helen...age 2

1871 census- posted earlier by annette

1881 census- 5 black square, airdrie

john...age 58...coal miner
rachel...age 56
marion...age 24...mill worker
thomas...age 18...joiner
margaret...age 16...mill worker

i reckon that john and rachel where born larkhall.

Joe

[Jaykim]

Hi Everyone

Just logged on for the first time today and am amazed at the information you have found.  Joe, my great grandfather was David Cowies nephew and trained as a hairdresser and went on to open a barber shop in Airdrie where my Dad used to get his hair cut.  His father was called James Cromerty Smith Cowie and was married to Rebecca Ralston.  They moved to the USA where my grandfather died and my grandmother eventually moved back to Shettlestone.  She ended up with Alzeimers and her daughter brought her back to the USA where she past away aged 98 in 2001.  I have been researching the tree for a while and have been following the Cowie line although the Ralston line I have traced back to Ireland.

I will work on all the information you have given me the post anything that might be of interest to anyone else.

[farmer]

Hi Jaykim
Thanks for IM.
Re my Ralstons (and Wilsons)
This is what we have re my grandmother Rebecca Wilson's birth 1873 in Philadelphia (from a cousin's gedcom) -
"her parents went to US
she was born in US
family came back to Belfast
came to Glasgow
lived in Shankhill road".
Rebecca's parents were Robert Wilson (a farmer) and Elizabeth Ralston.
That's it!  The sum total of what I know about my grandmother's parent's after years of searching,  with and without expert help.
From family hearsay we know my grandmother was born in Philadelphia, but there is a total blank until her marriage in Glasgow in 1894.   I trawl the message boards continually, I can't believe my grandmother was an only child, and I hope some day a connection will "pop up".
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Peter