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Surname interest WALSH Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
« on: Friday 31 December 04 10:57 GMT (UK) »
I am very new to this site so I hope I have posted this right.
Looking for WALSH, Merthyr Tydfil. James 1835, Mary1837 and children Mary 1862, Thomas 1864, Richard 1866, John 1868, James 1871, Elizabeth 1873 and Sarah A. 1876.
James jnr moved onto Whickham Durham and married the name was then spelt WELSH. 1901 changed to WELCH. James snr and wife Mary were born in Kilkenny, Ireland. I have found them all on 1871, (1881 Spelt WELSH) and 1891 census but now looking for marriages and deaths. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks Sue.
WELCH/WELSH/WALSH. Kilkenny, Ireland. Glamorgan, Sth Wales.
CLOUDER, All. BARRETT, Sittingbourne Kent. O'NEIL, Lancs/Staffordshire. SMITHER, Greenwich. LACEY, Surrey.

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Re: Surname interest WALSH Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 January 05 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Are these yours? On the 1861 Census

4054 038 044  PEDWRANFACH 29         

AHERN THOMAS           HD M  59   NAVVIE               IRL -                           
AHERN MARY                WI M  50   -                         IRL -                           
WALSH JAMES         BO M  24   IRON FORGE LABOURER       IRL -     
WALSH MARY               BO M  24   -                         IRL -                           
WALSH JOHN               BO -   10M -                         GLA MERTHYR TYD
             
HURLEY JOHN              BO M  21   NAILER               IRL -                           
HURLEY MARY              BO M  23   -                         IRL -     

                      
             
Davies, Edwards, Evans, Griffiths, Hughes, James, Jones, Morgan, Nicholas, Powell, Prytherch, Rees, Williams in Glamorgan, Brecon, PEM, CMN & MGY

Biddle, Budd, Clark/e, Davis/Davies, Elliott, Emery, Harper, Harris, Lloyd, Parsons, Phillips, Pitt, Reed/Reid/Read/Rhead, Rogers, Scandrett, Smith, Tyler & Waldron in Staffs, Worcs, Hef, Cheshire, Shrops., Middlesex & Surrey.

Cooghan/Coogan/Cogan - Castleblaney, Co Monaghan

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Re: Surname interest WALSH Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 January 05 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Also these on the 1851 Census at Gelligaer?

Piece: 2457   Folio: 175   Sched: 12      
Add: Bute Tce   Gelligaer   
      
Name   Pos.   Age   Occ.   POB
Thomas Walsh   Head   43   Loading Rails   IRL -
Mary Walsh   Wife   34      IRL -
James Walsh   Son   16   Filing Rails   IRL -
Thomas Walsh   Son   11      GLA Gelligaer
William Walsh   Son   6      GLA Gelligaer
Michael Walsh   Son   4      GLA Gelligaer
Matthew Ceaf   Lodger   21   Coker   IRL -
Robert Barrett   Lodger   23   Rail Worker   IRL -
John Mahar   Lodger   22   Wheeling Iron   IRL -
Davies, Edwards, Evans, Griffiths, Hughes, James, Jones, Morgan, Nicholas, Powell, Prytherch, Rees, Williams in Glamorgan, Brecon, PEM, CMN & MGY

Biddle, Budd, Clark/e, Davis/Davies, Elliott, Emery, Harper, Harris, Lloyd, Parsons, Phillips, Pitt, Reed/Reid/Read/Rhead, Rogers, Scandrett, Smith, Tyler & Waldron in Staffs, Worcs, Hef, Cheshire, Shrops., Middlesex & Surrey.

Cooghan/Coogan/Cogan - Castleblaney, Co Monaghan

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Re: Surname interest WALSH Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 January 05 04:36 GMT (UK) »
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Hello Nigel.
What a gem. Yes this is them together with parents. This opens up a new generation. Many thanks to you.
I'm thrilled.
Kindest regards Sue.
WELCH/WELSH/WALSH. Kilkenny, Ireland. Glamorgan, Sth Wales.
CLOUDER, All. BARRETT, Sittingbourne Kent. O'NEIL, Lancs/Staffordshire. SMITHER, Greenwich. LACEY, Surrey.


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Re: Surname interest WALSH Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 January 05 12:22 GMT (UK) »
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Now here's a coincidence!! To my post question above.
In 1861 WALSH family are: James and Mary both born 1835 in Kilkenny, Ireland and have a son John born 1861 in Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan.

My WALSH family are: James b1835 and Mary b1837 both in Kilkenny, Ireland and they have a daughter Mary b1861 in Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan.

Is there possibly another Walsh/Welsh family  on the 1861 census which corresponds with mine and possibly address.
This has got to be an amazing coincidence.
Regards Sue.   
WELCH/WELSH/WALSH. Kilkenny, Ireland. Glamorgan, Sth Wales.
CLOUDER, All. BARRETT, Sittingbourne Kent. O'NEIL, Lancs/Staffordshire. SMITHER, Greenwich. LACEY, Surrey.

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Re: Surname interest WALSH Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 January 05 23:46 GMT (UK) »
This family in 1861 is the nearest match I could find - distinct liklihood they are yours.

The son John was 10 months old in 1861 which means he was probably born 1860. Chances are he didn't survive and that's why he doesn't appear on future census. Infant mortality rate in Merthyr was one of the highest in the UK at that time.

As I said - no sign of James and his parents et al in 1841 but there is this family that could be related?

Caedraw   Piece 1514/09   Folio 47   Schedule 020

Richard Walsh   Labourer   40   IRL
Mary Walsh      30   IRL
Ann Walsh      7   Yes (Born in Glam)
Margaret                      6   Yes (Born in Glam)
Winyford Walsh      1m   Yes (Born in Glam)

All the best  :)
Davies, Edwards, Evans, Griffiths, Hughes, James, Jones, Morgan, Nicholas, Powell, Prytherch, Rees, Williams in Glamorgan, Brecon, PEM, CMN & MGY

Biddle, Budd, Clark/e, Davis/Davies, Elliott, Emery, Harper, Harris, Lloyd, Parsons, Phillips, Pitt, Reed/Reid/Read/Rhead, Rogers, Scandrett, Smith, Tyler & Waldron in Staffs, Worcs, Hef, Cheshire, Shrops., Middlesex & Surrey.

Cooghan/Coogan/Cogan - Castleblaney, Co Monaghan

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Re: Surname interest WALSH Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 January 05 01:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Nigel.
I'm going to look into Richard's family now see what I come up with.
Much appreciated Sue.
WELCH/WELSH/WALSH. Kilkenny, Ireland. Glamorgan, Sth Wales.
CLOUDER, All. BARRETT, Sittingbourne Kent. O'NEIL, Lancs/Staffordshire. SMITHER, Greenwich. LACEY, Surrey.