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Paul E

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Uncle-in-law?
« on: Saturday 01 January 05 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have the following family in the 1901 census:

John Whitton, H o H, M, 25
Comfort Whitton, Wife, M, 29
Ethel Whitton, Daur, 3
George Whitton, Grandfather, Wid, 78
Mary Lilley, Mother-in-Law, M, 48
Joseph Whitton, Uncle-in-law, S, 46

I'm confused as to how an Uncle-in-law could have the same family name as the Head of Household.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Many thanks

Paul

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Re: Uncle-in-law?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 January 05 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps it is a mistake and should say uncle?

Or, maybe mother in law's maiden name was WHITTON?  It's possible ???

In those days, "in-law" also meant "step" (though it was being used less often by 1901)  so, in effect, it could also mean step mother and step uncle - that would make it even worse wouldn't it ???

I'm sure furthering your research into them will sort out who they all are:D

Have you traced them on the earlier census to try and sort it out ???

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Re: Uncle-in-law?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 January 05 13:17 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Casalguidi.
I'm interested in this family because if it's the right one then George W would be a direct descendent.
However, the 'uncle in law' intrigued me.
I think you may be right - mother's maiden name is the more likely.
I'll keeo digging!

All the best for 2005!

Paul

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Re: Uncle-in-law?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 January 05 14:27 GMT (UK) »
In 1891 I find Comfort safely hiding under a surname variant or is it a red herring? - the age is also right:
 

1891 England Census
   
 
 
Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County .
 
Whittam, Alice 19 Lancashire Daughter  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, Benjamin 15 Lancashire Son  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, Charlotte 45 Lancashire Wife  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, Comfort 17 Lancashire Daughter  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, Ellen 9 Lancashire Daughter  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, Esther 6 Lancashire Daughter  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, Harriet 13 Lancashire Daughter  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, Jane A 25 Lancashire Daughter  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, John T 3 Lancashire Daughter  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, Mark 47 Yorkshire Head  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
Whittam, William T 22 Lancashire Son  Worsthorn with Hurstwood  Lancashire   
I will see if I can find a suitable marriage record 8)
 
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Uncle-in-law?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 January 05 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Assumptions are dangerus in family history - is my face red :-[
However, back on track and here is her marriage to John Whitton.
Name:    Lilley, Comfort
Record Type:    Marriages
Quarter:    June
Year:    1896
District:    Wigan 
County:    Greater Manchester Lancashire
Volume:    8c
Page:    76

Still does not help us with the uncle-in-law ???
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Uncle-in-law?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 January 05 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
The following is from the 1881 census (28 Enfield St, Pemberton, Lancs)


George WHETTEN   Head   M   Male   58   Oakthorpe, Derby, England   Coal Miner     
 Nancy WHETTEN   Wife   M   Female   51   Sedgley, Stafford, England       
 Mary LILLEY   Daur   M   Female   28   Sedgley, Stafford, England   Domestic At Home     
 Joseph WETTEN   Son   U   Male   26   Sedgley, Stafford, England   Coal Miner     
 George WETTEN   Son   U   Male   22   Sedgley, Stafford, England   Coal Miner     
 Enoch WETTEN   Son   U   Male   20   Sedgley, Stafford, England   Coal Miner     
 Comfort LILLEY   Gran Daughter      Female   8   Sedgley, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 David LILLEY   Grandson      Male   3   Sedgley, Stafford, England   Scholar


There was obviously some inter-marrying between branches of this family.

There is a John Whitton listed in the 1881 census for Pemberton (21 Little Lane)

 John WHITTON   Head   M   Male   39   Lower Gornall, Stafford, England   Coal Miner     
 Elizabeth WHITTON   Wife   M   Female   38   Lower Gornall, Stafford, England       
 Thomas WHITTON   Son      Male   19   Lower Gornall, Stafford, England   Labourer In Coal Mine     
 William H. WHITTON   Son      Male   15   Lower Gornall, Stafford, England   Labourer In Coal Mine     
 Joseph WHITTON   Son      Male   11   Lower Gornall, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 Ann WHITTON   Daur      Female   9   Lower Gornall, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 John WHITTON   Son      Male   7   Pemberton, Lancashire, England   Scholar     
 Harriet WHITTON   Daur      Female   3   Pemberton, Lancashire, England       
 Elizabeth WHITTON   Son (Daur)      Female   1   Pemberton, Lancashire, England       
 Thomas WHITTON   Father   W   Male   61   Lower Gornall, Stafford, England   Coal Miner     
 James MC DONNEL   Boarder   W   Male   40   Ireland   Coal Miner

Regards

Mark
 
Milton - Brighton, Eastbourne
Foord - Westham, Ringmer
Sellens/Sellins/Sellings - Sedlescombe, Crowhurst
Cash - Tonbridge, Kent
Harding - Horsham
Bodle - Hailsham, Alfriston
Crowhurst - Hailsham, Westham
Roods/Roads/Rhodes - Hailsham, Westham
Sinnock - Hailsham
Silsby - Brighton
Thomas - Brighton
Tullett - Brighton
Verrall - Sussex

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Re: Uncle-in-law?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 January 05 17:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Hackstaple / Mnmilt

Thank you for your posts.
My starting point was the 1881 Little Lane, Pemberton family, as my ancestor here is Ann Whitton, 9.

Your posts have sent me back to look at the original image of the 1901 census and it's now clear that George Whitton and Joseph Whitton are actually Whetton - this clears it up, and gives me a new line to look into!

Many thanks for your help

Paul

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Re: Uncle-in-law?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 January 05 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Paul - pleased it helped, no thanks to my absurd first reply. Good luck ;D ;D ;D
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Uncle-in-law?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 January 18 05:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul
Little lane was my starting point. Sarah ann whiiton b 30.5. 1881 daughter of John 22. 8. 1853 lower gornal married Elisha brookes m Mar 1904. They lived little lane as well