Joseph Herbert Hirst- Huddersfield

[annette ellen]

I am wondering if someone can help me try to find info on a Joseph Herbert Hirst , born 1867 Hudderfield, as written on his marriage certificate in Victoria, Australia.
 Parents - Sam Hirst and Ann Hirst. I do not have any other info at this time.

Regards
Annette

[Tati]

Hi Annette,

I can see one Joe Herbert Hirst but he's younger?

1871
RG10/4358 71 23
Almondbury, Yorkshire
480 Berry Brow
Sarah Ann Hirst, head, wid, 49?, Innkeeper
Samuel, son, mar, 29, Warehouseman
Ann, son's wife, mar, 31
Wm H?, grandson, 9
Joe Herbert, grandson, 12 mo

All born Berry Brow

 

[Tati]

In 1881, he's Joe H Hurtley - adopted  (and probably adapted too  )
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=24051011
RG11/4377 116 24

(birth Joe Herbert Hurtley Sep 1869 Huddersfield 9a 307)

Please shout if the link doesn't open for you 

[annette ellen]

Hi Tati,

Thanks for the answer. I have a copy of the marriage certificate now and it has that he married in 1887 age 21yrs so he would have been born in 1866 and it has as birthplace Huddersfield ,England, Father Samuel Hirst - Hotel Keeper and Mother Ann Hirst.

I did not have the certificate but went by info on our B,D,M records which do not give you much.
Do not know if this will make any difference.

Thanks for your reply.
Regards
Annette 

[Tati]

Well, I definitely can't see another candidate! By 1891 Sam is the Publican of the Railway hotel Almondbury, which ties in quite nicely with the occupation mentioned on the cert. Do you have any other document corroborating his age? Maybe he just told a little white lie about his age when he got married? He wouldn't be the first one to say he's a major when he isn't!     

[Sisterjane]

1861 Cencus-Almondbury
RG9/3256/77/3

Joseph Hirst 43 head b Almondbury     Innkeeper
Sarah Ann 39 wife b         "
Ann Hurtley 22 dau Mar b "

Not sure if this helps or hinders 

Jane

[Tati]

Jane! 

Maybe this marriage would shed some light?

Ann Hirst - Samuel Hirst Dec 1864 Huddersfield 9a 484

[annette ellen]

Hi Tati,

Thank you for the info about the marriage could be as it fits in with the dates.
We may have to get the death certificate and check whatinformation is written on that one.
Thanks for your imput, it is much appreciated.

Regards,
 Annette

[annette ellen]

Hi Sisterjane,
I do not think that it is the same family, but we never say never and I will do some more cheking and see what I come up with.
Many thanks for you imput, much appreciated.

Cheers
Annette