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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 January 08 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Her name was Dunn.  Her mothers maiden name was Peoples

Ah right, no connection there then (apart from the address of course) !
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon, Ward, McGinnis, Docherty from Ireland
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon in Clydebank, Glasgow (from Ireland)
Miller, Burns, Scougall in Scotland
Any Millers currently living in Helensburgh.

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 January 08 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Her name was Dunn. Her mothers maiden name was Peoples

Ah right, no connection there then (apart from the address of course) !

I don't think there's any connection either apart from the address, which is why I posted originally... At the moment, you don't know where your Sweeneys and Wards hailed from, but often our Irish went where they knew other people from home (as well as the availability of work).... so mine were from Rathmelton area .. soooooo!!! I'll check later tonight the percentage of Irish adults in this street in 1901, also the names and see if there is any basis for this theory (in this case).
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There are Sweeneys and Wards in Rathmelton in Griffiths Valuation  around 1857 do you have death certs with parents names in Scotland.
I'll check the particulars and get back later.
Flynn,Cox, Slaven-Co Longford
Donnelly,McGeown,Hughes,McCrory- Co Armagh
Hargan,Curran,Bradley,Grant,Peoples ,Patton,Dunn-Donegal
Conway,Degnan,McDonald,Cassidy,Kelly,Fenmore,Ryans,Kilkenny,Murray-Ireland/England/Scotland
Reeves,Fox,Williams-Shropshire/Staffordshire/Scotland
Gill,Kane-I.O.M/England/Scotland

Murdoch,Bruce,Rankine,Ballantyne-Ayrshire
McCutchen,McAdam,Wright-Kirkcudbright,Dumfries,Ayrshire

And others

Plus all variations in spellings

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 January 08 19:04 GMT (UK) »
There are Sweeneys and Wards in Rathmelton in Griffiths Valuation  around 1857 do you have death certs with parents names in Scotland.
I'll check the particulars and get back later.

That's very interesting, thanks. I have Hugh Sweeney and Margaret Gray who were living there, both from Ireland.

Hugh's parents were John Sweeney (parents Hugh Sweeney and Mary McGinnis) and Winifred Ward (parents Patrick Ward and Margaret Docherty).

Margaret's parents were Patrick Gray and Margaret McKinnon.

All this info has come from certificates from Scotlands People. I'm assuming (!!) that because I can't see John and Winifred (who had 6 children all born in Ireland between 1868 and 1887) weren't on the 1891 census that they came from Ireland sometime between then and 1901 when they were there but I have no idea how they came or why or where from.

Jeremy
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon, Ward, McGinnis, Docherty from Ireland
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon in Clydebank, Glasgow (from Ireland)
Miller, Burns, Scougall in Scotland
Any Millers currently living in Helensburgh.

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 January 08 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Got bogged down with the 163 Irish born residents in this street. Many, many have Donegal names , and a good proportion of Rathmelton names (in G.V.) BUT that doesn't mean to say they couldn't be present elswhere. Not proof.

I found the following on Lindels Donegal site.

It's curious that's all, and right time frame for John

1867 Sweeney, John 27 Bachelor Labourer Dromore,
 -Conwal (father)Sweeney, Hugh Labourer- Ward, Mary Full Spinster (father) Patrick Ward.

I think I'll have to go back and copy that entry again, it has not come out as I wished. But my thoughts were, perhaps Winifred was a second marriage?? Maybe Marys sister???

If you are searching G.V. remember mcGinnis has alternative spellings e.g. Mc Guiness etc .

I'll have to do some stuff for work tomorrow but I'll have another look later.

Flynn,Cox, Slaven-Co Longford
Donnelly,McGeown,Hughes,McCrory- Co Armagh
Hargan,Curran,Bradley,Grant,Peoples ,Patton,Dunn-Donegal
Conway,Degnan,McDonald,Cassidy,Kelly,Fenmore,Ryans,Kilkenny,Murray-Ireland/England/Scotland
Reeves,Fox,Williams-Shropshire/Staffordshire/Scotland
Gill,Kane-I.O.M/England/Scotland

Murdoch,Bruce,Rankine,Ballantyne-Ayrshire
McCutchen,McAdam,Wright-Kirkcudbright,Dumfries,Ayrshire

And others

Plus all variations in spellings

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 January 08 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Flynn,Cox, Slaven-Co Longford
Donnelly,McGeown,Hughes,McCrory- Co Armagh
Hargan,Curran,Bradley,Grant,Peoples ,Patton,Dunn-Donegal
Conway,Degnan,McDonald,Cassidy,Kelly,Fenmore,Ryans,Kilkenny,Murray-Ireland/England/Scotland
Reeves,Fox,Williams-Shropshire/Staffordshire/Scotland
Gill,Kane-I.O.M/England/Scotland

Murdoch,Bruce,Rankine,Ballantyne-Ayrshire
McCutchen,McAdam,Wright-Kirkcudbright,Dumfries,Ayrshire

And others

Plus all variations in spellings

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 January 08 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Link to Lindels page with marriage record

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/lettcivregmarr.htm

Thanks for that, what an excellent site that is. I've e-mailed as suggested on the page you pointed me to to ask to see the scan, since it is also possible that the 'Mary' bit was hard to read and could have been something else?

Thanks for your help,
Jeremy
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon, Ward, McGinnis, Docherty from Ireland
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon in Clydebank, Glasgow (from Ireland)
Miller, Burns, Scougall in Scotland
Any Millers currently living in Helensburgh.

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 February 08 11:17 GMT (UK) »
For the benefit of anyone else searching, I sent and e-mail to the National Library of Scotland (their e-mail is maps@nls.uk) and had the following response, which they have confirmed they are happy for me to post here:

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I regret that I have failed to find Blythswood View. There is no mention of it on either the Ordnance Survey (O.S) 25 to a mile scale map of 1896 ( Dunbartonshire sheet XXV.2) or on 1914 (Dunbartonshire XXIII.10; XXIII;14; XXIII.11 and XXII.15), which  is the biggest scale of  Clydebank map we have for this period.  I looked at 49 maps of both Clydebank and Glasgow from around 1900 to 1962, including the 1958 and 1962 Clydebank town plans with a street index. The O.S. 50 (1:1250) to a mile scale sheets for 1948 also proved fruitless.

 You may have already tried both the Mitchell Library in Glasgow    http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/Residents/Libraries/Collections/ArchivesandSpecialCollections/

and the  Clydebank Story site  http://www.theclydebankstory.com/contact.php

Thanks to searching for your enquiry ,I  now know that Clydebank is not part of Glasgow, but is in West Dunbartonshire. Local history enquiries can be sent to
Clydebank.local.history@west-dunbarton.gov.uk

So you can see they kindly did a lot more than I expected and really tried to find it for me but to no avail as yet. I have sent an e-mail to the address suggested so I'll wait to see if they can help.

Many thanks then to the National Library of Scotland, where at their web site http://www.nls.uk/maps, they do have maps from all over the world!

Jeremy
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon, Ward, McGinnis, Docherty from Ireland
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon in Clydebank, Glasgow (from Ireland)
Miller, Burns, Scougall in Scotland
Any Millers currently living in Helensburgh.

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #16 on: Monday 07 April 08 12:38 BST (UK) »
I've now had some help from Clydebank Local History library, and they have compared some maps they have and confirmed that it was on what is now called Clyde Street between South Bank Street and South Elgin Street.
Sweeney, Gray, McKinnon, Ward, McGinnis, Docherty from Ireland
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Miller, Burns, Scougall in Scotland
Any Millers currently living in Helensburgh.

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 12 November 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »
west dumbartonshire council on 01389737000 and ask for the bmd department for records in clydebank  they should be able to help