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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 11:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Andrew, have taken a look, but sadly don't look like mine.

Ritchiewilk... looks like we share a link through William Bowie, blacksmith and Margaret Hogg :)

I'm not from Hawick, but my Granny was and used to visit a lot while we were wee, but sadly no longer have any relatives to visit so haven't been for a long long time. Another co-incidence is that my Mum was born in Gala, and still have family there :)

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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 21:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Sparkle,

Congratulations, your the first distant relative I have come across

Have I got the connection correct?  It's your Andrew b1801 and my John b1800.

You should get yourself back to Hawick for a visit some day.

The photo of James Tait Bowie at Selkirk Common Riding looks like it was taken at a place in Selkirk called "The Toll".  It's a steep banking at the side of the main road coming in from the north of the town.  This is where people gathered to get a good view of the horses as they entered Selkirk.


Talk to you soon
Ritchie
Wilkinson, Roxburghshire/Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire
Cairncross, Roxburghshire/Peeblesshire
Edmondson, Roxburghshire/Cumberland
Bowie, Roxburghshire
Young, Berwickshire/Roxburghshire/Selkirkshire
Hogg, Roxburghshire
Briggs, Nottinghamshire
Caldwell, Stirlingshie

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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 09 April 09 11:58 BST (UK) »
So I guess I'm a distant relative too, though I haven't worked anything out yet. Jane Bowie  :)

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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 09 April 09 13:38 BST (UK) »
Yes Jane you are definitely a relation too. Did you ever get my reply to your email a wee while ago? No worries if not.

But I believe we are related through Andrew Bowie(b1827) & Margaret Byres (your G.G grandparents, my G.G.G grandparents); their son James Tait Bowie was your G. Grandfather (who married Mary Best)
I'm related through James Tait Bowie's brother Henry Bowie. If I'm right  ??? we are 3rd cousins once removed.

And we are both related to Ritchie through william Bowie and Margaret Hogg; the grandparents of Andrew Bowie (b1827) so 5th cousins +/- a removal... or something

Think I have Bowie headache now.... ;D

Although not fully up to date my tree is here:
http://rammell.tribalpages.com/?userid=rammell&x=8&y=13

Ritchie - I didn't have John in my tree; but yes Andrew Bowie is the son of William and Margaret. I dont have a birth date for Andrew, but it seems to be about 1804. I will add John in. Do you have a birth date for him? I only had note of the other siblings as they were still living with William and Margaret in the 1841 census.

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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 11 April 09 00:37 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I don't have a date of birth for John, only his death date 28/5/1841.  He should be on the 1841 Scotland census as it was taken in June, unless he was in England at the time, or hospital if he was ill.  Were census records taken of people in hospital?  I don't know.  So far I can't  find him.

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Ritchie
Wilkinson, Roxburghshire/Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire
Cairncross, Roxburghshire/Peeblesshire
Edmondson, Roxburghshire/Cumberland
Bowie, Roxburghshire
Young, Berwickshire/Roxburghshire/Selkirkshire
Hogg, Roxburghshire
Briggs, Nottinghamshire
Caldwell, Stirlingshie

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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #23 on: Friday 17 April 09 21:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Amanda,

I've got some more info on the Edmondsons.  You will see its all Isaacs.

Isaac born c1820 Coldbeck, Cumberland died 19/6/1855 Hawick
His son
Isaac born 4/6/1855 Hawick died 16/2/1924 Edinburgh
His son
Isaac born 28/9/1876 Hawick died 2/1/1942 Hawick

Sons of George and Joan

Isaac born 22/9/1870 Hawick died 4/3/1871
Isaac born 11/1/1872 Hawick died 15/1/1874
Isaac Walter born 7/6/1876 died 1959 Galashiels

Son of Richard and Elizabeth

Isaac born 12/6/1869 Hawick died unknown

Son of Johanna

Isaac born 11/1/1872 Hawick died 28/12/1873 Hawick (illegitimate)

 I got all the birth and death dates from the scotlandspeople website.  Still got alot to research.  I will get back to you when I have more info.

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Ritchie
Wilkinson, Roxburghshire/Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire
Cairncross, Roxburghshire/Peeblesshire
Edmondson, Roxburghshire/Cumberland
Bowie, Roxburghshire
Young, Berwickshire/Roxburghshire/Selkirkshire
Hogg, Roxburghshire
Briggs, Nottinghamshire
Caldwell, Stirlingshie

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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 19 April 09 08:24 BST (UK) »
Sorry if my reply is a comment and not more concrete info, but I can't help trying to read the human story behind the dates. It's so sad, this desperate attempt to have a son who must have the name Isaac we can read in the two deceased infants and the third child who lived. It must have been this couple's dearest wish.
How tragic the death of a father only a couple of weeks after his son's birth. A young widow with an infant, not easy in Hawick in those days.
Interesting that someone died in Edinburgh but his son back in Hawick. My grandfather Andrew Bowie also lived for a time in his youth in Edinburgh, but returned to live in Hawick as an adult, going back only when he was on his deathbed to pass away in the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary of lung cancer from his forge in Havelock St (Wilton).
The passing on of a name seems to have been SO important in Hawick, the Bowies in my branch are all James or Andrew, with other names creeping in only for rare third sons.

For anyone who is interested: Hawick at the time many of the Isaacs listed didn't make their second birthday seems to have been suffering economic depression. Many were stocking makers and worked in their own homes, now unable with their hand looms to compete with the Leicester and Nottingham mechanised trade. One Bessie Sanderson, 13, commenced work at 7am and finished at 6pm, after which she did seaming work till 9pm. Her youngest colleague was 8 years old.
One Colin Rae, 11, worked from 6 or 7am till 8pm as a winder, two 45-minute breaks to eat.
May Bell, 7, was a winder in her father's stocking shop and for the rest of the day looked after the younger children.
Very few children attended school after 9 years of age.
(from my wonderful book: Hawick in the early sixties, James Edgar, publ. The Hawick Express Office, 1913)

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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #25 on: Monday 04 May 09 15:50 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I've added a few photos of headstones of Bowies and Edmondsons I found in various cemeteries in Hawick.

Ritchie
Wilkinson, Roxburghshire/Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire
Cairncross, Roxburghshire/Peeblesshire
Edmondson, Roxburghshire/Cumberland
Bowie, Roxburghshire
Young, Berwickshire/Roxburghshire/Selkirkshire
Hogg, Roxburghshire
Briggs, Nottinghamshire
Caldwell, Stirlingshie

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Re: Bowie,Edmondson,Hawick.
« Reply #26 on: Monday 04 May 09 15:55 BST (UK) »
More photos
Wilkinson, Roxburghshire/Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire
Cairncross, Roxburghshire/Peeblesshire
Edmondson, Roxburghshire/Cumberland
Bowie, Roxburghshire
Young, Berwickshire/Roxburghshire/Selkirkshire
Hogg, Roxburghshire
Briggs, Nottinghamshire
Caldwell, Stirlingshie