Brickwall - Kilmurray/Kilmurry Convicts

[Karen Robertson]

Good Morning fellow keepers of the past.
I am hoping that someone may be able to assist me in breaking down a brick wall.

I have my 5x Great Grandpa who was sent out to Australia as Convict in 1827 on board the ship Cambridge. He was said to be a labourer. Born in  Meath in 1801. His name is Denis Kilmurray.
He was tried at Trim on the 13th March 1827 for stealing a sheep (my very own Waltzing Matilda!)

I have previously been advised that apparently there was a name change (the person telling me this did not elaborate on why, or whether it was to Kilmurray from something else or from Kilmurray  to whatever)  I have noticed the variant spelllings of the name.  I have also noticed a mass exodus of Kilmurray's to various parts of the world - Scotland, Argentina, the USA and a whole host to Australia.

But back to Denis...

His death cert gives no extra clues as to his origins. I also have a number of other Kilmurray convicts I am sure are related given the rarity of the name, but have thus far not been able to "prove" .

Hoping that someone can point me in the right direction.
Kaz


Collecting Kilmurray's Worldwide

[ebridge14]

Hi! I see this is old but Denis is also an ancestor of mine, I’m fairly certain. Any chance you’ve made progress?

[Karen Robertson]

Hi there
Good to meet another descendant.
How are you descended from our Denis?

In answer to your question,  no, no progress has been made- yet!
It is really strange, a number of family have done DNA testing, but have not made it back past any of his offspring.
I am becoming more convinced than ever that there was a name change or mis transcription - because I simply cannot find the. Man anywhere but in Australia.
Keep in touch.
Karen

[ebridge14]

My great grandmother was Vera May Kilmurray, her father was Edward Kilmurray who I’m fairly certain was the son of Denis - in Edwards obituary it says his father was Denis, but I’ve only just started looking into this branch of my family so haven’t found supporting documentation yet.

*all from the Hastings area - my mother grew up in Wauchope and Port Macquarie.

[ebridge14]

I read Denis was a convict before I found this post, however I haven’t found him on any convict lists.

[Karen Robertson]

Yes Edward was the son of Denis and Mary.
I have a tree on ancestry - public- if you want to have a look. Kaz_Robertson
Yes he was a convict, the name Kilmurray was spelt many different ways too-
He was on the Cambridge 1822.
Stole a sheep.

[ebridge14]

Would you happen to have info on Edward perhaps?
I can’t find you on ancestry but i’m not super familiar with the site. I do have a tree on there, i’ll Have to find my username to give you.
If Denis is my 3rd great grandfather and your 5th, how related would we be?

[LH]

Hi

When was Denis on the Cambridge?   Your last post states 1822, but you earlier stated:-
"He was tried at Trim on the 13th March 1827 for stealing a sheep"

Is there a Passenger List available and if so, what surname is used for Denis?

Cheers

[Karen Robertson]

Hi LH
My apologies the 1822 was a typo.  It is 1827!
 
I have all his convict records and other info leaned from Australia, but nothing at all from Ireland.
Kaz