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Samuel Lewis Worms
« on: Friday 01 February 08 07:43 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone tell me where he died...? and a true date? have done all the usual searchs.

Samuel Lewis Worms b 16 sept 1828 ? d 1881 Auckland   
Came to NZ on "Cashmere" 8 April 1862   

Son? Alfred Joseph Worms b 23/07/1871 d 1943 - Pipemaker, Bricklayer, Carter (1870?) married Matilda Catherine Lyons d 1902 aged 65 years b 1837? Inisheer, Galway, Ireland   

Jen

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Re: Samuel Lewis Worms
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 February 08 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi jahall,

A Lewis Samuel WORMS married Kate Johanna COX  in 1896, folio 3752.

There's several School Admission Records for children as well, though not Alfred Joseph:

NZSG Index v.4 School Admission Record
Name: WORMS Roy Norison
School: Northcote
Register No: 2305
Former Reg. No:
Admission Date: 20 July 1908
Parent/Guardian: Mr Samuel Lewis WORMS
Address: B'head (Birkenhead?)
Birthdate: 26 Sept 1900
Last School: Richmond Road
Last Day: 16 Dec 1900
Destination: Ponsonby

NZSG Index v.4 School Admission Record
Name: WORMS Doris Hopton
School: Northcote
Register No: 2304
Former Reg. No:
Admission Date: 20 July 1908
Parent/Guardian: Mr Samuel Lewis WORMS
Address: B'head
Birthdate: 8 July 1899
Last School: Richmond Road
Last Day: 16 Dec 1910
Destination: Ponsonby

NZSG Index v.4 School Admission Record
Name: WORMS Gladys
School: Northcote
Register No: 2303
Former Reg. No:
Admission Date: 20 July 1908
Parent/Guardian: Mr Samuel Lewis WORMS
Address: B'head
Birthdate: 31 July 1897
Last School: Richmond Road
Last Day: 26 April 1910
Destination: Home

NZSG Index v.4 School Admission Record
Name: WORMS Doris Hopston
School: Turua
Register No: 0460
Former Reg. No:
Admission Date: 29 Oct 1906
Parent/Guardian: Mr Samuel Lewis WORMS
Address: Turua
Birthdate: 8 July 1899
Last School: Mt Eden Auckland
Last Day: 21 Dec 1907
Destination: Mt Eden

NZSG Index v.4 School Admission Record
Name: WORMS Una Gladys
School: Turua
Register No: 0459
Former Reg. No:
Admission Date: 29 Oct 1906
Parent/Guardian: Mr Samuel Lewis WORMS
Address: Turua
Birthdate: 31 May 1897
Last School: Mt Eden Auckland
Last Day: 21 Dec 1907
Destination: Mt Eden

NZSG Index v.4 School Admission Record
Name: WORMS Roy Morrison
School: Turua
Register No: 0461
Former Reg. No:
Admission Date: 5 Nov 1906
Parent/Guardian: Mr Samuel Lewis WORMS
Address: Turua
Birthdate: 12 Sept 1900
Last School:
Last Day: 21 Dec 1907
Destination: Mt Eden

Regards, riley

ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Samuel Lewis Worms
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 February 08 08:53 GMT (UK) »
More...

Roy Norrison WORMS married Mabel Mary Francis GALVIN in 1920

Doris Hopton WORMS married Percival Herbert William GREENAWAY in 1926

Una Gladys WORMS married Vernon Robert NASH in 1915

Source                   Auckland City Library
Record Type   B/R
Year of Death   1931
Surname                   WORMS
Given Names   Kate Johanna
Age                   54
Location                   Hillsborough Cemetery

Source                   Waikumete Cemetery Office
Record Type   C/R
Year of Death   1976
Surname                   WORMS
Given Names   Roy Morrison
Age                   75
Location                   Waikumete Cemetery

Source                   NZSG Cemetery fiche
Record Type   B/R
Year of Death   1988
Surname                   NASH
Given Names   Una Gladys
Age                   90
Location                   Mangere B04.22

Source                   Hamilton City Council
Record Number   8564
Record Type   B/R
Year of Death   1988
Surname                   GREENAWAY
Given Names   Doris Hopton
Age                   89
Location                   Hamilton Park
   
No record for Samuel Lewis WORMS, but that doesn't mean he didn't die or isn't buried in NZ.

Regards, riley
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Samuel Lewis Worms
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 February 08 09:05 GMT (UK) »
that is great but I think it is a different bloodline... it is so confusing for a beginner like me!!

this is what I have:

According to the IGI (taking into account that it is a submitted entry, as opposed to register transcription) It looks like it runs
Aaron Worms bn c 1775 +/- m rachel Lamart, London
Lewis Worms bn c 1801 London m Hannah Joseph 1826 London
Samuel Lewis Worms bn either 1828 in London or in Ceylon (previously suggested 1837 by MC Worms) died 1881 Auckland NZ
Alfred Joseph Worms bn 23 July 1871 Aukland NZ (& his older bother Lewis Samuel Worms bn c 31 March 1868 Aukland NZ died 9 Feb 1931 NZ)
Married Mary Matilda Swinton b 1875 (1876) Auckland d Auckland 14 Dec 1940 burial 16 Dec 1940 Waikumete Cemetery, Auckland christened 1875



My grandmother was Velma Agnes Matilda Worms b 05/04/1917 in Ponsonby

They may have been cousins - I think their was a Lewis Samuel - I have this as well...

New Zealand Worms descend from Samuel Lewis WORMS who married Hannah JOSEPH (d of Simon) at the Great Synagogue London 27 Sept 1826  Source Marriage Register of Great Synagogue London.
I have children of the marriage Rosetta, Hannah, Elizabeth, Lewis Samuel b c 1827, Sidney Joseph bn 1837 (he was living in South America by 1884) )
According to the letter written by M C Worms this Lewis Samuel WORMS went to Ceylon to work on tea plantations connected with the Worms family. He married a mixed race girl and was not accepted by the family back in England, and they ended up going to NZ. One of Samuels sons was William Worms Bn 1876, and he had 2 sons William Frederick Bn 1916 and Malcolm Coverdale Worms bn c 1920 (another researcher lists sisters Una, Dora and a brother Roy)


this is just submitted information for which I am trying to prove - i dont think he was born in Ceylon - I think England!:

ID: I2586
Name: Samuel Lewis WORMS
Given Name: Samuel Lewis
Surname: Worms
Sex: M
Birth: 1837 in Trincomalie, Sri Lanka
Death: Y
_UID: 4EBA5EFC1A0D4EC786D20721F305382472B4
Change Date: 1 Feb 2005 at 17:00

Marriage 1 Matilda LYONS b: 1837 in Trincomalie, Sri Lanka
Married: 1862 in Trincomalie, Sri Lanka
Change Date: 1 Feb 2005
Children
 Mary Dora WORMS b: 1863 in Trincomalie, Sri Lanka
 Emily Flora WORMS b: 1866 in Trincomalie, Sri Lanka
 Lewis Samuel WORMS b: 31 Mar 1868
 Alfred Joseph WORMS b: 23 Jul 1871
 Hannah WORMS b: 1874
 William Thomas WORMS b: 1877

My grandmother was definitely alfreds daughter - have birth cert!

HELP ME get some sleep!

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Re: Samuel Lewis Worms
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 February 08 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Not Samuel I'm afraid, but I have found info on his widow

This is from the Auckland City Libraries cemetery database for Symonds Street Cemetery (which has a large Jewish section)

The New Zealand Herald of 28\10\1902 has Matilda Catherine Worms died 25 October 1902 aged 65 years, relict of Samuel Lewis Worms and nee Lyon, and buried 28 October 1902 in Symonds Street Cemetery. 

Am going to the Central Library tomorrow (Saturday) so will have a look there

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Re: Samuel Lewis Worms
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 February 08 09:30 GMT (UK) »
thanks so much fiona - I have two preschoolers so library research and them dont work!

Sorry should have posted about Matilda - so much information I could write a book!

Look forward to hearing from you!

Jen

ps definitely Jews but think someone lost their faith!

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Re: Samuel Lewis Worms
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 February 08 09:39 GMT (UK) »

You searched where ?


Heaps of WORMS buried in Hillsborough, including Lewis Sam aged 63, 1931.




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Re: Samuel Lewis Worms
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 February 08 09:42 GMT (UK) »

 I believe Rileys (North Shore) children are related.

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Re: Samuel Lewis Worms
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 February 08 09:45 GMT (UK) »
My great grandfather alfred was definitely born 1871 =Lewis Sam aged 63, 1931 - would have been 3!.  Lewis is Alfred's brother.