1891 Lookup Request Please

[adam_in_SW_Middx]

Can anyone help me to find Ann Lock b.1844 Limpsfield, Surrey on the 1891 census.

As she was born towards the end of the year she should be aged 46 and living in Isleworth or near to where she was in 1881: 46 Ebury Street, Westminster.

Many thanks
Chris

[Barbara F]

Hello Chris

There is a Victoria Ann Lock 48 Lady's Maid, b Limpsfield in Surrey, Servant  in a household in Firbeck Yorkshire.  She is single.
I can post the details of the household if you think this is the right one.  There are lots of servants!

Barbara

[adam_in_SW_Middx]

Although the person I'm after was unmarried and a ladysmaid in 1871 and 1881 I don't think she would be shown as 48 or Victoria Ann (as she was Ann and 36 and 46).  I've just seen the record you mention on FreeCen.

Victoria sounds as though it could be made up and i haven't found a Victoria Lock in birth registers or previous censuses. Ann may later have made attempts to hide her identity as she had an illegimate child, also Ann Lock in 1867.   

The 1901 census shows:
LOCK Victoria Ann 54 b. Limpsfield  living in: St Margarets London
who must be the same person as your Victoria as no other one matches. 

Do you think that "Victoria" could be "Ann"?

[Barbara F]

Hello Chris
I am concerned about the name change but the lady I found in 1891 was the only one who matched on surname, age and place of birth.
Are you sure that your Ann did not die or marry between 1881 and 1891?
I think what we need to do is to check the other censuses to see if there were 2 Ann/Vistoria Ann Locks born Limpsfield.
Do you have your Ann's birth registration?
Barbara

[Barbara F]

Hello again Chris

I have just found this

Births Dec 1838   
LOCK  Victoria Ann    Godstone  4 157   

Deaths Mar 1908   
LOCK  Victoria Ann  69  Wandsworth  1d 456

This looks like the Victoria Ann on the 1891 and 1901 censuses.

So where is your Ann? I am having trouble finding her and Victoria Ann in 1851 and 1861.

Barbara

[adam_in_SW_Middx]

Thank you for finding a Victoria Ann, at least we can rule her out (probably though she is a sister or cousin).

I can't find Ann's birth certificate - Ann's birth registration was not:
Births Dec 1844
LOCK  Ann     Godstone  4 156  Godstone
I ordered the certificate and it told me this Ann was born in Godstone High Street.   Limpsfield is quite far away from there on multimap.

In 1871 Ann lived at 42 Ebury Buildings
In 1881 she lived at 46 Ebury Street

I don't know if she married but
this record is definitely not her in 1901:
Anne F Fulker 57 Surrey Limpsfield Croydon C B Croydon as in the household she has a Son, Walter Fulker aged 21 nor is it
Annie  Riddle 58 Surrey Limpfield Southampton Portsmouth as in the household are only Silas and Gwendoline and in 1865 Ann Firmager married Silas Riddle born in Hoathly, Sussex, shown on the 1881 census.

So I am sure this leaves you as puzzled as I am: where Ann is in 1891 and 1901?

[Barbara F]

Hello Chris
This is a puzzle.
I cannot find Ann in 1851 or 1861 but will have another try.
The Ann registered in 1844 - can you tell me her parents names?  I would like to try to find them.  It could be that your Ann was born in Godstone but moved at an early age and was brought up in Limpsfield.
Barbara

[adam_in_SW_Middx]

On the birth certificate above the parents are Thomas Lock, a larker and Esther (Buckland).

I think Ann's parents may have been William Lock b1813 Godstone and Sarah (Terrey),  It would be great if you could find them on the census in Limpsfield or may be they were living in Titsey or Oxted which the 1901 census suggests.  I know they had two sons who moved to London according to the 1881 census (Edward born 1838 and William b1840). 



 

[Barbara F]

Hello again

I will have another look around.
I think I have found Ann with Thomas and Hester in 1851.
I still can't see Ann in 1871 
In 1881 I see she is in the household of a Scottish Peer.  I wonder if they might have been abroad in 1891? 
What else do you know about Ann?

Barbara