I have just been reading the posts regarding the name de Mamiel. I will begin at the beginning. The name Haener originated in Germany. Jean Haener married Marguerite Arnould, dates unknown. They had a son, Jean-Jacques Haener, born Umstadt, Germany, in 1710 (died 1794) where his parents lived. He moved to France in 1730 with his parents and settled in Nancy where he became printer to the king, married Anne-Willem de Porceaux (1718-1788) in 1737. They had a son, Henri (1744-1817), who took over the printing business. He married Magdaleine Perrin (1751-1787) in 1770. They had a son Jean-Baptiste Nicolas Haener (1776-1838), printer, who married Anna Therese Mamiel (1778-1818) in 1801. They had a son, Born 1802 Department of Meurthe, Nancy, France, whom they named Henri Haener de Mamiel, combining both family names. He married Anna Maria Caroline (Caroline) Swift (1804-1849) on 15/01/1833, at Brighton, England, eldest child of Godwin Swift (1779-1814) and Jane Sophia Swift (1785-1851). I have traced the Swift family back beyond William the Conqueror, Alfred the Great and all royal houses of Western Europe. Yes, they were well connected. Captain Henri remarried and died 1866. Stanislaus Haener and Henry Hoener left Ireland in mid 1850's. The name Hoener became widely used as another first name. Stanislaus, the eldest of seven children, was born Brussels, Belgium 1834, arrived in Australia with Elizabeth Bourke, born Killyon, Ireland 1837. They were never married but had eight children. They separated 1871. He married Eliza Holmes, born County Donegal, Ireland 1843, in 1773, and had they had one child; Eliza died 1880; Stanislaus married her niece, Susan Jane Holmes, and they had eleven children. In all Stanislaus fathered 20 children, 3 boys and 17 girls. Stanislaus farmed at Indigo Ck V., then bought the hotel, post office, shop and large areas of land at Darlingon Point on the Murrumbidgee River, sold them and bought firstly Violet Bank for 3,043 pounds followed by the adjoining Morebringer Station on the northern bank of the Murray River on the outskirts of Howlong NSW. where he and Susan Jane built a substantial homestead 1894-97 which still stands. Stanislaus died 1899 and is buried at Howlong. Susan Jane and two of their children are also buried there. Meanwhile Elizabeth Bourke married Robert Stubbs in 1873. She died in a fire in Eldorado in 1893. Henry Hoener (1840-1916) married Catherine Quirk (1843-1922), eldest daughter of James Quirk of Banshee, Co. Tipperary, Ireland, at Chiltern 21/04/1861, and became extensive property owners around Barnawartha V, including a hotel there. They reared 14 children, 6 of whom went to Western Australia, in early adulthood.