Alfred Brown

[russethouse]

I am trying to find Alfred Brown(e) on the 1891 census.
On the 1901 census he is aged 19 (so birth year approx 1882)and living with his mother (then Annie/Anne Bender)and step family.
Alfred Browns birthplace is given as Clapham, his mother Anne or Annie's birthplace is Boxford.
I can't find his birth, or his mothers marriage to Mr Brown either......I'm stuck 
Any help gratefully received
His mothers maiden name is Herbert and she is on the 1871, census at home with her parents in Boxford, David and Margaret Herbert - then I lose her......

[Barbara F]

Hello Russethouse

This looks like Annie and husband in Lambeth in 1881 RG11 613 f 107

Barbara

[yonderpeasant]

He is down as alfred Bender
RG12/346/138/68

1891 55 DBlock Queens buildings Collison st St George the Martyr Southwark
Charles Bender head mar 39 stationers assistant b.Mile End old Town London
annie Bender    wife  mar 29                               b.Boxford berkshire
Charles A  Bender  son   13 showroom boy at range and stove maker b.mile End
Henry J Bender      son   10 scholar                    b.Mile end
Alfred H Bender  stepson 9 scholar                     b.Clapham London
Florence Bender     daur   4                                b.deptford St Pauls
William Bender        do!         1                                          do   

[avm228]

Hello Russethouse

This looks like Annie and husband in Lambeth in 1881 RG11 613 f 107

Barbara

...page 42

Ann Browne's husband is Alfred Browne, 22, b Tacolneston, Norfolk

Marriage:

Dec 1879 Wandsworth

Alfred BROWNE
Anne HERBERT

on same page, 1d 1056

Anna

[avm228]

Death: Sep 1881

Alfred BROWNE, 22, Lambeth 1d 299

[avm228]

Likely birth of Alfred junior:

Mar 1882:

Alfred BROWNE Camberwell 1d 816

So he appears to have been born after his father's death.

Anna

Modified: ignore this - see below

[yonderpeasant]

or could be
alfred Herbert Brown Lambeth 1d 503 Sep quarter 1881
which is a bit nearer Clapham

[avm228]

or could be
alfred Herbert Brown Lambeth 1d 503 Sep quarter 1881
which is a bit nearer Clapham

Ah yes - was only looking under Browne not Brown.  I'd forgotten he was Alfred H. in 1891. And of course Herbert was his mother's maiden name.

So if that's him -(looks likely) he was born around the time of his father's death.

Anna

[russethouse]

Many thanks - I was telling someone about Percy Bender and realized I knew little of his mother.
She married Alfred Brown and was widowed then married Charles Bender, that made a family of Alf Brown, Charles and Henry Bender.
She went on to have other children Florence and William, Charles Bender died
She then has a child (Percy) by and later marries Charles A Bender.(her stepson)
Annie dies and Charles Bender later marries my grandmother Annie Louise Discombe, who already had two daughters: Gwen and Olive.
Charles Arthur and Annie Louise then have a daughter of their own - my mother !
It's like a soap 
I really appreciate your help, thanks again.
My mother remembers Alf Brown and Percy Bender, but she thinks that Percy Bender moved to Glasgow, where his wife Agnes came from, just as war broke out, to work in the shipyards.  He was never seen or heard of again.
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