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Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« on: Tuesday 11 March 08 23:56 GMT (UK) »
I have just discovered an ancestor who ran an inn called the Red Lion in Shalbourn for a while (approx 1857 to the mid-1870s).  I have not been able to identify where this might have been as it seems to have long since closed.  Does anyone know anything of it?  I imagine it was quite small.

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Rachel
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O'Reilly (Sheffield, Flint, L'pool, Co. Longford): Foxton (Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk): Spragg (St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly): Stabb (Berry Pomeroy)

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Re: Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 00:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rachel

Link to Genuki page on Shalbourne
http://www.brazell.net/genuki/BRK/Shalbourne/index.html

Google says there is still a "Red Lion" in Shalbourne
The Red Lion Inn   - High Street, Avebury, Marlborough, SN8 1RF
http://www.city-visitor.com/shalbourne/pubs.html

But it also seems Shalbourne was 'shared'  between Wiltshire and Berkshire
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WIL/Shalbourne/

ANd the Red Lion Inn of Avebury is officially in the Wilts side?
If this is the same Inn, pic of it here :
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/Travelogue/redlion99.html


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Re: Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the links, Ambly - some useful background there.  However, I think the Avebury "Red Lion" is too far from Shalbourne to be the same pub, despite what Google thinks!  The census returns for 1861 and 1871 make no mention of Avebury and give every indication that the inn was somewhere in the village (the addresses either side merely reading "[enumerators number] Shalbourn(e)" - whether on the Wilts or Berks side, I'm not sure! 

I found only one on-line trade directory which mentions Shalbourne (dated mid-1850s).  It lists two pubs in the village - "The Plough" and the "Red Lion" (kept by it's previous owner a Mr Oliver).  "The Plough" is still operating today but I can find no other reference to the "Red Lion" or it's position. :-\
Stevens (Devizes, Calne, Wootton Bassett): Hunt (Milford, Lymington, Calne): Moore (Ipswich): Whitlock (Pitton & Farley, Salisbury): Hayter (Whiteparish)

O'Reilly (Sheffield, Flint, L'pool, Co. Longford): Foxton (Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk): Spragg (St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly): Stabb (Berry Pomeroy)

Gore (Newbury, Wigan): Hawkins (Gt Bedwyn, Hungerford): Massey/Wallis (Shalbourne): Mildenhall (Ogbourne): Smith/Lilley (Nhants): Wernham (Chieveley): Woosnam (mid-Wales, Salop): Yaldwyn

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Re: Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 17:50 GMT (UK) »
There was  a Red Lion in Shalbourne, but is no longer in existence. It was converted to a home for motherless girls and is now a private house.

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Re: Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, Nashua!
Stevens (Devizes, Calne, Wootton Bassett): Hunt (Milford, Lymington, Calne): Moore (Ipswich): Whitlock (Pitton & Farley, Salisbury): Hayter (Whiteparish)

O'Reilly (Sheffield, Flint, L'pool, Co. Longford): Foxton (Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk): Spragg (St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly): Stabb (Berry Pomeroy)

Gore (Newbury, Wigan): Hawkins (Gt Bedwyn, Hungerford): Massey/Wallis (Shalbourne): Mildenhall (Ogbourne): Smith/Lilley (Nhants): Wernham (Chieveley): Woosnam (mid-Wales, Salop): Yaldwyn

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Re: Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 00:24 BST (UK) »
Sorry to jump on the bandwagon but does anyone know where the Kings Arms in Shalbourne was? The NASH family were the licencees in the 1880s. Could it have been a re-named Red Lion? I would be really v pleased to know if anyone has the info to hand.

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Re: Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 09:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Pat

I have a photo & some details if you PM me your email address. 

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Re: Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 12:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Nashua, have emailed you privately, I hope - I am never too sure whether I have carried out pc things correctly.  Thank you very much indeed, I really look forward to receiving a pic.

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Re: Anyone Know Shalbourn(e)?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 08:42 BST (UK) »
I am sure Nashua has provided people with the information they needed but I have attached a copy of part of the 1881 OS map for Shalbourne which shows St Michaels home which is now a private house. The middle part of this used to be the Red Lion. It would seem that the vicar and his wife who lived opposite the Red Lion found the ale house such a nuisance that they bought it and shut it down!

The Kings Arms was located between the Chapel and the village shop and is now a pottery.

My maternal grandmother was desended from the STOCKWELLS, WATERS. bAKERS and CRAMS amongst others and they were all from very long time Shalbourne families.

Anyone interested in Shallbourne would find Shallbourne to the Millennium a most useful reference book. It is an absolute mine of information of value to the family historian.

Finally I visit the village regularly and if anyone wold like a photograph of a building or whatever let me know.
Alexander, Appleford, Bolshire, Brant, Campbell, Clarage/Claridge, Coates, Collyer, Cram, Deacle, Giles, Hiscock, Hoare, Keen, Mayor, Rixon, Simms, Stockwell, Tarrant, Taylor, Turner, Waters, Wheeler, Wilson