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Bernard Kirwan & Lawrence Co Offaly
« on: Saturday 22 March 08 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Bernard Kirwan was hanged in 1943 accused of murdering his brother Lawrence.The more gruesome side of this story is on the beginners boards,if I get confident I will try to link the two boards later today.I am trying to find the parentage especially that of their mother or any info  on these two brothers-I am sure they lived in the Ballycumber area of Offaly.Thank you.

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Re: Bernard Kirwan & Lawrence Co Offaly
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi I know this is an old post but Iím curious about this case for several reasons Iím related to the family and nobody will talk about it does anyone know who the Gorry woman was they fell out over.

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Re: Bernard Kirwan & Lawrence Co Offaly
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Think the father Bernard died in 1920
Can't see a death cert but the will calendars have this Bernard Ballincur, widow Mary
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014924/005014924_00427.pdf

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Re: Bernard Kirwan & Lawrence Co Offaly
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 11:31 GMT (UK) »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyJ5IdcLzPw

You tube clip on a Tg4 documentary about the case.

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Re: Bernard Kirwan & Lawrence Co Offaly
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 15:58 GMT (UK) »
The reason Bernard had to be angry at Laurence isn't covered in the clip but it's talked about here
https://crimealwayspays.blogspot.ie/2008/03/mi-casa-su-casa-kt-mccaffrey.html

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Re: Bernard Kirwan & Lawrence Co Offaly
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 January 18 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi I know this is an old post but Iím curious about this case for several reasons Iím related to the family and nobody will talk about it does anyone know who the Gorry woman was they fell out over.

There was a letter read in court to the Jury (dated 13/10/41) . Dear Lar, Please do not let Nan see this letter and do not ever say I sent it to you.............. the letter concluded "Love Kathleen a kiss, One stolen one, one lovely one" sent from a Middlesex Hospital where "Kathleen" was working (Evening Herald, January 22nd 1943)
Corri, Holland,
Newman, Kiernan,
Lyons, Murphy