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Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« on: Thursday 27 March 08 08:15 GMT (UK) »
1st Generation

1. Albert Edward William Walker was born in 1869 in Worcester and died on an unknown date. He married Rose ?. Rose was born in 1866 in Worcseter and died on an unknown date.
   


Children of Albert Edward William Walker and Rose ?
   i.   2.   Florence Walker was born on Jan. 12, 1893 in Worcester and died on Jan. 1, 1985 in Coventry - Best i could get ?.
   ii.   3.   Alice Walker.
   iii.   4.   Arthur Walker.
   iv.   5.   Lilly Walker.
   v.   6.   William Walker.


 
2nd Generation (Children)

2. Florence Walker was born on Jan. 12, 1893 in Worcester and died on Jan. 1, 1985 in Coventry - Best i could get ?. She married Maurice Barnett Englander on Oct. 29, 1914 in Birmingham. Maurice Barnett, son of Barnett (Bernhard) Englander and Bertha Florence Rosianski, was born in 1892 in Gellerton's yard, West Gate, Bradford, West Yorkshire. and died in Birmingham.
   

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Re: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 March 08 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Englander,

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

You'd need one of the children's birth certs to confirm this but I can see this possible marriage (bearing in mind their first child was born in Birmingham)

Jun 1888 Birmingham  6d 92     
Albert Edward Walker to possibly Rosamond Bagshaw

The 1881 census shows a Rosamond Bagshaw born in Crowle Worcestershire (which is the birthplace shown for Rose on the 1891 census) and living Birmingham:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=22354716
RG11/2984 22 38
(shout if you can't open the link)

 :)
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Re: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 March 08 08:49 GMT (UK) »
You can obtain UK birth certs via
www.gro.gov.uk
where I think they still cost £7 each.
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

WRITE LETTERS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TREASURE ... EMAILS DISAPPEAR !

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Re: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 March 08 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Yes they still do, Lydart  8)

Would you like us to trace the families back, Englander, or were you searching for descendants?  :)
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Re: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 March 08 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat, Englander :)

The order of the children (ages/birthplaces as given in 1901) was:

Lilly 13 b Birmingham
Alice 11 b Worcester
Florence 9 b Worcester
William 7 b Birmingham
Arthur 2 b Birmingham

Anna :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 March 08 09:07 GMT (UK) »
I'm afraid I don't see a death of a Florence Englander in the England & Wales Death Index 1984-2005.  Did Florence die under another name?

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 March 08 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Happy to trace them back, Englander. Please be aware that you'll need certs to confirm my finds  :)
 
Given that Albert was living in Worcester St Helens in 1891 (and the fact he's a milkman), I quite like this boy in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=23498095
RG11/2917 131 12
(Please do tell me if you can't open it!)

 
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Re: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 March 08 09:46 GMT (UK) »
From there, 1871 shows dad's name as Henry:

1871
RG10/3051 147 12
St Helen, Worcester
33 Friar Street

Henry Walker, head, 46, Dairy Man Master, b. Staffordshire Bruff Hall? (wonder if this should read Brierley Hill!)  
Anne, wife, 39, b. Worcestershire Evesham
John, son, 19, Dairy Man, b. Worcester
Henry, son, 17, Dairy Man, b. Worcester
William, son, 15, Dairy Man, b. Staffordshire
Richard, son, 13, scholar, b. Staffordshire
Septimus, son, 11, scholar, b. Staffordshire
Arthur, son, 8, scholar, b. Worcester
Albert, son, 4, scholar, b. Worcester
Walter, son, 1, b. Worcester   
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Re: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 March 08 09:53 GMT (UK) »
10 years earlier ...

1861
RG9/1996 79 6
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Bilston Road

Henry Walker, head, 35, Railway Pointsman, b. Staffordshire Bilston
Ann, wife, 30, b. Worcestershire Evesham
John, son, 9, scholar, b. Worcester
Henry Edwin, son, 7, scholar, b. Worcester
Wm Marshall, son, 5, scholar, b. Stafford Brierley Hill
Richard, son, 3, scholar, b. Staffordshire Wolverhampton

I'm unable to ID Henry in 1851, or a definite marriage for him and Ann. You may have to purchase the birth cert for one of their children to discover Ann's maiden name. 
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