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Re: Gill's Court, Salford
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 10 April 08 14:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Red,
I have attached Smith street which was just above the prison. But Hargreave street you dont say if this is Salford or Manchester. Do you have any other nearby street names you can give me?

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Mike Morris
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PARSONAGE.
BOWLER
MATTLEY
WESTERMAN
SPENCER
MORRIS
FITZMORRIS
SMITH
WELLS
BROADY.,,,,,, Manchester and Cheshire
SENIOR,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
SPROSTON....Cheshire
HUNT,,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
THORNBER,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
BREAKELL,,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
ATKIN,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
ASHTON,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
DANIEL,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
JUDGE,,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Ireland
TIDSWELL,,,,, Manchester
DUFFY ,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Sligo I

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Re: Gill's Court, Salford
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 10 April 08 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Red
An interesting point - if a Constable William Maloney/Moloney/Malone should crop up in the records I would love to know!
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Re: Gill's Court, Salford
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 10 April 08 16:52 BST (UK) »
I did notice to the south of the prison a place named Nangreave street. No chance this is the correct street................. is there :)) Its close to Hampson and Oldham street and west of Ordsall lane.

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Mike Morris
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PARSONAGE.
BOWLER
MATTLEY
WESTERMAN
SPENCER
MORRIS
FITZMORRIS
SMITH
WELLS
BROADY.,,,,,, Manchester and Cheshire
SENIOR,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
SPROSTON....Cheshire
HUNT,,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
THORNBER,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
BREAKELL,,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
ATKIN,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
ASHTON,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
DANIEL,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
JUDGE,,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Ireland
TIDSWELL,,,,, Manchester
DUFFY ,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Sligo I

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Re: Gill's Court, Salford
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 10 April 08 22:54 BST (UK) »
Mike, thank you for your prompt reply, the only info i can glean from the 1881 census is that the two previous neighbours addresses are 29 & 27, West Duke St.
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West Duke street and Bury Buildings Cellar. Salford
« Reply #22 on: Friday 11 April 08 01:56 BST (UK) »
I have tried to locate west Duke street Salford in the 1881 census set I have, but had  no luck. Seeing as you were able to provide this street name when you opened the 1881 census. Then please search through 'Neighbours' and look for other street names. I did locate a Duke street running off Gravel lane in Salford but not west Duke street.
PARSONAGE.
BOWLER
MATTLEY
WESTERMAN
SPENCER
MORRIS
FITZMORRIS
SMITH
WELLS
BROADY.,,,,,, Manchester and Cheshire
SENIOR,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
SPROSTON....Cheshire
HUNT,,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
THORNBER,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
BREAKELL,,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
ATKIN,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
ASHTON,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
DANIEL,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
JUDGE,,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Ireland
TIDSWELL,,,,, Manchester
DUFFY ,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Sligo I

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Re: Gill's Court, Salford
« Reply #23 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:20 BST (UK) »
Hi
I've lost the thread of this thread a little bit now  ::)  but there is a West Duke St in the area you have mentioned with Nangreave St and Hampson St.  This is on the later map of the area (Manchester SW, 1894). Bury's Building isn't named as such, but one whole side of the Street is taken up by Ordsall Lane Mills. This would be a noisy place to live!
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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West Duke street. Salford
« Reply #24 on: Friday 11 April 08 15:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you , I see it now on my 1894 map, I shall now look on my 1844 map to see if there is anything that shows thats not in the 1894 map.

Cheers
Mike Morris
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PARSONAGE.
BOWLER
MATTLEY
WESTERMAN
SPENCER
MORRIS
FITZMORRIS
SMITH
WELLS
BROADY.,,,,,, Manchester and Cheshire
SENIOR,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
SPROSTON....Cheshire
HUNT,,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
THORNBER,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
BREAKELL,,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
ATKIN,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
ASHTON,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
DANIEL,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
JUDGE,,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Ireland
TIDSWELL,,,,, Manchester
DUFFY ,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Sligo I

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West Duke street . Salford
« Reply #25 on: Friday 11 April 08 16:03 BST (UK) »
West Duke was not developed in this area in the 1844 map of Salford. But interestingly there is a Berry Building near by. I wonder if this is your Bury Building? I have marked the area that West Duke street appears in in 1894.

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Mike Morris
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PARSONAGE.
BOWLER
MATTLEY
WESTERMAN
SPENCER
MORRIS
FITZMORRIS
SMITH
WELLS
BROADY.,,,,,, Manchester and Cheshire
SENIOR,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
SPROSTON....Cheshire
HUNT,,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire
THORNBER,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
BREAKELL,,,,,,Preston and Lancashire
ATKIN,,,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
ASHTON,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
DANIEL,,,,,,,,,,Cheshire and Manchester
JUDGE,,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Ireland
TIDSWELL,,,,, Manchester
DUFFY ,,,,,,,,,, Manchester and Sligo I

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Re: Gill's Court, Salford
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 20 September 11 23:38 BST (UK) »
I see that this is an old post but I was directed to it when I Googled "Harding's Buildings" and have picked up the map image (thank you)

When I look at the 1861 census P2915, F32, Pg26 there are a number of families at No.19 including mine. Might anyone know what kind of dwelling might it have been if they all have the same dwelling number? What was the quality of the housing like in this part of Salford? It was between the railway and a canal but that does not necessarily make it a slum.

There were slums for sure and the Blitz took its toll of all manner of buildings and then there was the 1960's the "White Heat of Technology" and the love affair with the car, all of which means no Harding's Buildings to examine today.

Just curious.

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Wilson, Wright, Morely, Morris (Jewish blood and a name change in there somewhere, but who and when?)
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