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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 19 April 08 13:18 BST (UK) »

For what it's worth, it seems to me that a notably large proportion of the registrations have a surname suggestive of Irish ancestry.

Anna

I would suggest that they were Roman Catholics and the name is used as a result of the practice of naming children after the nearest saints day.  I am not sure whether this relates to their birth or baptism but it had some peculiar effects like boys called Mary.

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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 19 April 08 20:25 BST (UK) »
Which parish was it Mogsmum.

Maybe someone can re-check for you.

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Ashton, Northants.    The 1851 Census shows Daniel (Snr.) and his wife Mary Ann, together with 5 children, the first of which I (together with the Ancestry transcriber) see as 'Daniel'.   Norman Tew however, whose information I understand to have come from the Parish records themselves, has it interpreted as Dennis.

So, as I say, I is much confused  :-\

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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 19 April 08 20:58 BST (UK) »
If it's the Malcher? family in Ashton 1851 HO107/1737 folio 333 page 17 I would say that the 9 year old child is Dennis.

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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 20 April 08 09:19 BST (UK) »
That's the one casalguidi - thank you for taking a look.   If you think its Dennis and Norman Tew thinks its Dennis, then I guess ... its Dennis!   

Wonder where they suddenly got that name from?   Still, in years to come I'm guessing people will be wondering the same about 'Britney', 'Cruz' and pity the poor soul who has to decipher a 'Fifi-Trixibell'.  ;D


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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 20 April 08 09:55 BST (UK) »
Have you looked for his birth on Free MBD, beacuse this looks possible.

Dennis MALCHER 1841, Dec., Pottespury, v. 15, p.336

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 20 April 08 11:16 BST (UK) »
Dennis is listed in the Oxford Names Companion - as being
English and French medieval vernacular form of the Greek name Dioinysios. which was held by sveral early Christian Saints

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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 20 April 08 12:26 BST (UK) »
The IGI has the following:
Dennis MALCHER bap 17 Oct 1841, Ashton, Northampton, England
Parents Daniel MALCHER & Mary Ann MALCHER

It's one of those weird 'I' batches - which have no source information but do seem to have been transcribed from church records i.e. not submitted.

The batch also has Caroline bap 25 Mar 1853, Ashton, to the same parents but with surname spelled MOLSHER.

A parent search also finds to the same parents (all Ashton and all 'I' batches):
Jane MOLSHER bap 25 Oct 1857
Frederic MOLSHER bap 18 Mar 1860
William John Ede MOLSHER bap 12 Oct 1862

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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 20 April 08 12:32 BST (UK) »
PS: Probable marriage from FreeBMD

Daniel MOLSHER Sep qtr 1840 Potterspury
Mary Ann BETHUNE on the same page.

PPS: Daniel & Mary Ann MALCHER and family (Caroline, Frederic, and William JE) are in Ashton in 1871 - Daniel transcribed as David.  Dennis isn't with them.

PPPS: in 1871, Dennis (married with children) has been transcribed as MATCHER.

PPPPS: in 1861, Dennis (lodging in Lambeth) has been transcribed as MOTCHER and his age which is clearly 20 in the image has been transcribed as 30.

PPPPPS: Dennis's marriage is on FreeBMD in 1862 - Dennis as MALCHER; a Charlotte Mary EDE on the same page.

Hope some of this has helped.

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Re: When would you expect Dennis?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 09:06 BST (UK) »
Again my thanks.   

I tend forget about FreeBMD - mainly because 90% of those I've searched for have returned zero matches, even when I have a certificate for that individual in my hot little hand - I'll give it another go.

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