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Dr. Caird - Surgeon
« on: Saturday 03 May 08 18:00 BST (UK) »
May I ask for some advice and, if appropriate, a look-up please?

Dr Caird - I do not know his first name - was born up to 12 years either side of his sister who was born in 1765.  Is there a medical directory(ies) or lists of graduates which may give his name, please?  I believe he would have graduated in Scotland.  Presumably I'm looking for graduation between 1773 and 1797.

Is anything available on the net?

I live in Cheshire
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Re: Dr. Caird - Surgeon
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 May 08 18:28 BST (UK) »


Hi Reiver !

Was he a doctor doctor ... or a doctor of something else ? ( did you "get" that ... it's the Scouse !!  ::) ) I found this and don't know if it would be appropriate !!

Royal College of Surgeons Edinburgh

Historical enquiries -

For information about Fellows, Honorary Fellows, Members, Licentiates of earlier years, from the early 1500s onwards, please contact the College Library on library[at]rcsed.ac.uk, ( replace [at] with @ ) as records, in certain cases extensive, are retained here and information, in compliance with Data Protection, can be made available on request.

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Re: Dr. Caird - Surgeon
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 May 08 19:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie
You pop up everywhere  :) :) :) :)   You're a gem.   Many thanks. I will certainly try that.   

If by doctor doctor you mean a doctor surgeon - yes that's what I mean - in broad Cheshire  :) :) :)

Best wishes
Reiver

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Re: Dr. Caird - Surgeon
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 May 08 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Reiver, if your Dr. Caird was a surgeon, would he not have been a Mr.Caird? just to cloud the issue a little. I suspect however that the title "surgeon"  may have been used fairly freely back then, compared to its strict usage today.

Guid hunting,

Thrall

P.S. Sorry about the link to Amazon re. "strict usage today", it popped up and I couldn´t delete it!

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Re: Dr. Caird - Surgeon
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 May 08 16:33 BST (UK) »


Hi Reiver ! how are you ?

Have you been able to find anything yet on your Dr Caird ? .... do we still need to keep looking ?

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Re: Dr. Caird - Surgeon
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 May 08 15:08 BST (UK) »
Hello Annie
How nice of you to come back on this.  I have a confession . . . I have not yet followed up on your suggestion to contact the RCS.  Sorry.

Partly because I did not feel I knew enough to isolate him.   He was a Doctor and apparently sailed as a Surgeon on a sailing ship - which is not a lot to go on.

I have an undated letter which was written between 1893 and 1908.  The writer died in 1908 and the recipient, who was married, married in 1893.  The writer gives a lot of information about his greatgrandparents, grandparenhs from Dumfriesshire which have been borne out by investigation and further family documents.

In part he writes:- A brother of my grandmother was Dr. Caird.  He went on a sailing ship as Surgeon for the voyage.
Enough  :) :)

I must contact the RCS

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Re: Dr. Caird - Surgeon
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 May 08 03:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Reiver,

I searched the wills on Scotland People website, this is a free search, and I found a John Caird, Fellow Royal College of Surgeons, husband of Charlotte Avarane, died 29 Oct 1861 or 62, 3 pages of the will lodged Edinburgh Sheriff Court.

Tom

ps They were married in Onchan Isle of Mann in 03 Dec 1803, an extracted record on IGI
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: Dr. Caird - Surgeon
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 May 08 03:44 BST (UK) »

I wonder if this is him Tom and Reiver ??  ::)

The Medical Times and Gazette October 19th 1861 ( ? ) - Medicine
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Caird ... at 27 Montagu Street Edinburgh John Caird FRCS Eng

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 May 08 12:06 BST (UK) »
Thank you both very much indeed.  Absolutely superb.

Now I'll tell you a little more about Dr. Caird.

Some 30 or 40 years ago before I really started on this Family History thing, my father gave me some papers he had acquired.  He was then in his 60s. In 1917 when he was 14 he had been with his uncle who had been 'doing' family history.  The Uncle was R. B. Burnet of Burnley / Blackburn - some Lancashire Rootschatters may find this familiar  :)

Uncle Ronald had passed on to my father - and he to me - a copy of a letter from which I quoted a couple of postings ago - about Dr. Caird going on a sailing voyage.

It continues . . . .

. . He landed on a large island in the Indian Ocean.  The King was almost dying from some severe illness.   He attended to the King and restored him to health.  He had an only daughter so he married the King's daughter - so he abdicated, and he Dr. Caird became King.  Only one daughter was the result of the marriage. and when both father and mother died, the daughter inherited all.

I must obtain a copy of John Caird's will and see his death certificate. 

Thank you both Tom and Annie once again

'Prince?' Reiver :) :) :)