Further search for Harps

[Rosinish]

I found an entry for a death for an:

Alexander Harp, died 18 Jul 1906 age 88 Married, 1 Ketchum Avenue, York, Ontario

Annie

[Forfarian]

This family were only on Uist for 1861 & I believe this Alexander to be the one who died 1862 although I may be wrong?

You are mixing up two entirely different people. Of course the one in Uist in 1861 aged 41 is not the one who was in Aberdeen in 1851.

The one who died in Aberdeen in 1862 was aged 74, so he cannot be the one who was in Uist in 1861 aged 41. If his age on his death certificate is accurate, his year of birth would have been 1787/1788.

The one who died in 1874 was aged 22. Therefore he cannot be the one who was aged 41 in 1861. he is probably the son of Alexander Harp and Helen Harp, born in Fortrose in 1852.

Therefore there must have been three, not two, Alexander Harps who were lighthouse keepers:

(1) Born in the 1780s in Duffus, married Margaret Guthrie, retired to Aberdeen before 1851, died there in 1862 aged 74.
(2) Born Knockando about 1820, married Helen Harp (who may be the daughter of (1) above), lived in Uist and later in Wick, emigrated to Canada before 1891 and died there in 1906 aged 88.
(3) Born about 1852, died in Islay in 1874 aged 22. Possibly son of (2).

The death certificates will sort all of this out.

[Rosinish]

You are mixing up two entirely different people. Of course the one in Uist in 1861 aged 41 is not the one who was in Aberdeen in 1851.

Therefore there must have been three, not two, Alexander Harps who were lighthouse keepers:

(1) Born in the 1780s in Duffus, married Margaret Guthrie, retired to Aberdeen before 1851, died there in 1862 aged 74.
(2) Born Knockando about 1820, married Helen Harp (who may be the daughter of (1) above), lived in Uist and later in Wick, emigrated to Canada before 1891 and died there in 1906 aged 88.
(3) Born about 1852, died in Islay in 1874 aged 22. Possibly son of (2).

The death certificates will sort all of this out.

 

I'm not mixing anyone up.

Initially, when I had no time to read through everything & couldn't find Alexander who was in Uist in 1861 on the 1871 census, I assumed he'd died & possibly the age given may have been an error.

However, I did find him in 1871 therefore just mentioning it couldn't be him who died so that "Betty" knows I'm up-to-date :-)

My theory is they are however related i.e. I have posted what I could find if it turns out to be the case 

Annie

[Forfarian]

My theory is they are however related

Mine too. I reckon (2) is the son-in-law of (1) and (3) is the son of (2) and grandson of (1).

[bettyespana]

Here we have them in Ontario 1891

Name: Alexander Harp
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 71
Birth Year: abt 1820
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Religion: Free Church
French Canadian: No
Spouse's Name: Ellen Harp
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Province: Ontario
District Number:130
District: York East
Subdistrict: St Pauls Ward

Household Members:

Name Age

Alexander Harp 71
Ellen Harp 69
William Harp 30
Eliza Harp 39

Source Citation
Year: 1891; Census Place: St Pauls Ward, York East, Ontario; Roll: T-6379; Family No: 390

Annie

Hi Annie,

Thank you for all this info & I am sure also that there is a link between the two.
Like myself I think Helen Harp(1) married a man with the same surname.Not only that but he also had the same 1st name as her father.
They went on to name some of their children in the same way as we all find in our searches of past relatives.
As you say if I can get the death certs hopefully that will give us the answer.

Kind regards & thank you once again

Betty

[bettyespana]

Here we have them in Ontario 1891

Name: Alexander Harp
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 71
Birth Year: abt 1820
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Religion: Free Church
French Canadian: No
Spouse's Name: Ellen Harp
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Province: Ontario
District Number:130
District: York East
Subdistrict: St Pauls Ward

Household Members:

Name Age

Alexander Harp 71
Ellen Harp 69
William Harp 30
Eliza Harp 39

Source Citation
Year: 1891; Census Place: St Pauls Ward, York East, Ontario; Roll: T-6379; Family No: 390

Annie

Hi Annie,

Thank you for all this info & I am sure also that there is a link between the two.
Like myself I think Helen Harp(1) married a man with the same surname.Not only that but he also had the same 1st name as her father.
They went on to name some of their children in the same way as we all find in our searches of past relatives.
As you say if I can get the death certs hopefully that will give us the answer.

Kind regards & thank you once again

Betty

When I said "like myself" I meant both myself & my husband had the same surnames!
Looking at the other posts it appears we have all come to similar conclusions

Betty

[Forfarian]

The attached is from the Glasgow Herald.