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Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« on: Wednesday 28 May 08 19:07 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am trying to find information on my great grandmother's family, the Wells family who travelled around the south.  Her name was Ellen Wells b. 1881 in Ringwood, Hampshire.  She had a brother Henry b. 1871 also in Ringwood.  I think her mother's name was Eliza.  I have them on the 1881 census as sleeping in tents at Eling (New Forest Bartley Green) but I can't find anymore information than that.  Any help or ideas on where to look? 
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Hendey,Hayward,Stevenson,Wells,Scott,Hutchings, Wren - Hampshire
Cox, Keats, Lyde, Roberts, Bishop, Snelling - Dorset
Dickinson - Bristol
West/Gustar - Isle of Wight
Russell -Salisbury

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Re: Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 May 08 19:21 BST (UK) »
Is this Henry in 1891?

 RG12/899  Folio 76  Page 28
living in a gypsy van in Brockenhurst
Joseph WELLS age 35 basket maker born unknown
wife  Sarah age 35 born Shirley, Hants
dau Eliza 12 born Wimbourne
dau Mary J age 9 born Radstock, Somerset
dau Louisa age 5 born Redlynch, Wilts
son Joseph age 4 born Brockenhurst
son Benjamin age 1 born Minstead
sister-in-law Harriet age 21 basket maker  born Southampton
brother Henry age 22 basket maker born Ringwood
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 May 08 19:47 BST (UK) »
Hi
I think that this could very well be the right family but have nothing but Henry to link it to the Henry on the 1881 census.  I have tried to connect all the names you have listed but have found nothing more! 
Thanks anyway,
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Burke, Mythen - Co Wexford, Ireland
Hendey,Hayward,Stevenson,Wells,Scott,Hutchings, Wren - Hampshire
Cox, Keats, Lyde, Roberts, Bishop, Snelling - Dorset
Dickinson - Bristol
West/Gustar - Isle of Wight
Russell -Salisbury

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Re: Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 June 08 21:22 BST (UK) »
ellen wells born 1881 in hampshire her mother was eliza bland or jeff and her father was william wells.she had a number of brothers and sisters.i have them listed somewhere as well.williams father was george and his mother was elizabeth smith. ellen married henry scott and had a number of children.she married in 1902 and died in 1956. henry her brother was born 3rd june 1869.dont worry your birth date for henry is different to mine.they often mixed up their years old.that was his baptism date i have given you so he could even be older.i do have a few more details if you want them.regards cathayb
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Re: Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 June 08 23:19 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm sure now that this is the right family as I know that Ellen definitely married in 1902 and died in 1956 because my dad went to the funeral at Thorney Hill.  My grandad Jack Scott was Ellen's second child.  Thanks for the info and anything else you have on the family would be great.  Are you related in anyway?
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Burke, Mythen - Co Wexford, Ireland
Hendey,Hayward,Stevenson,Wells,Scott,Hutchings, Wren - Hampshire
Cox, Keats, Lyde, Roberts, Bishop, Snelling - Dorset
Dickinson - Bristol
West/Gustar - Isle of Wight
Russell -Salisbury

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Re: Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 11:00 BST (UK) »
yes i am related but only through marriage but i have a friend who nis proberly a cousin of yours because eliza bland/jeff was one of her gt.granmas.i will get in touch with her and tell her to contact you.i have to go to the dentist now but when i get back i will send you a personel note with my email address.love cathay
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Re: Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 January 09 00:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm interested in the Jeff/Bland connection

I have, well my girls through their dad are connected to the Jeff[e] and Bland families round that way, Matthew Jeff b about 1842 around Basingstoke & Phoebe Bland b about 1843, Reading. from what I can figure they had a whole pile of children then got married about the time the seventh child was born (1888), they had Mary Ann, Shadrack, Ann Selina, Elizabeth, William, Sarah, Phoebe and Sarah Ann between 1863 and 1890.

Sarah married Eneas Sherwood, going back up Eneas' tree his parents were Henry Sherwood and Annie Sharrard, children other than Eneas being Robert, Faith, Abraham and Olivia, they also had several children before they married.

Curiously Sarah Jeff's parents Matthew & Pheobe and Eneas' parent's Henry & Annie seem to have had a double wedding as on the GRO they are all in the same page (JAS, 1888, Lymington, Hampshire, 2b page 1031).

Eneas & Pheobe's daughter another Pheobe married Cyril Richer in Essex, he is my girls G Grandfather.

Thats about all I have at the moment as haven't done a lot on this side.

Jen
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Re: Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 January 09 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jen

Re your Bland & Jeff family, you must be related to my wife, I have a number of certificates and also believe I have the death of Matthew Bland.

John

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Re: Wells family travellers in Hampshire
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 January 09 19:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi John

Any information you have would be gratefully recieved... this is about as far back as I've managed on these lines.

Jen
Brickwalls... Dean in Brecknock, Freeman in Bedfordshire
Working on my girls tree...
Richer (Essex & suffolk)
Legg, Hunt, Ellis, Wareham (Dorset, Blandford & abouts)
Cannell , Cowley, Christian (Liverpool & Isle of Man)
Sherwood, Jeff/e, Bland, Sharrard (New forest)

Also interested in Paradise/Paradice in Gloucestershire

Trying to figure out the Davis family of Winterborne Abbas and where they originated (before about 1780)