There I go, snookering myself again...!
Well, if I'm uttering "No Surrender" as an Orange war cry, it's a case of "you Orange bigot!"
If I'm uttering "No Surrender" as Connolly's last words, it's a case of "how dare you utter the words of a saint, you Orange bigot!"
Either way, I can't win...!
lol
Still, she makes a nice chilli con carne...!:) hah
On William III, it's much more complicated, the order was not founded in 1690, but many years later, and was originally the Orange Society. An interesting fact is that William III's personal guards were the Dutch Blues, a Catholic regiment, and William went to the Boyne with the authority of the Pope, in the form of a papal bull. The pope feared the authority of the Catholic king Louis, so William was a handy instrument for him. King Billy actually granted a degree of toleration to Catholics and Presbyterians after Aughrim. It was the Irish parliament, dominated by the English descended aristocracy which overturned it all. There's a lot of myth about King Billy. I made a documentary about the statue of him in Carrickfergus as a university project in 1992. The council had made an image of him without him being on his trusty white horse. The locals went ballistic. The great majority weren't interested in fact, just their cosy wee propaganda based image of him riding off to the Boyne. One thing you don't do in Ulster is mess with people's symbols...!
Incidentally, the Ku Klux Klan was founded in American along similar lines to the Orange Order, long before the slavery issue came to dominate their agenda. I met the Klan chief about eight years ago in Pulaski, Tennessee, for an STV documentary I was working on, and he handed me a copy of the Declaration of Arbroath and a King James bible as items to explain the 'legitimacy' of his cause.
Chris
