**completed** HELP - Philadelphia in Ireland?????

[nedda]

Hi,

Have a John KILCHRIST who has been listed as a Philadelphia british subject. 

It has been brought to my attention that on the 1841 census it has his birth country down as I (Ireland).

Does anybody know if there is a Philadelphia or something similar sounding in Ireland??

It was also brought to my attention that at the time Philadelphia was under british rule, so if his parents had been Irish/English or Scottish he would have been classed as a british subject - hmm the plot thickens.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Nedda

[aghadowey]

Very difficult to help without more information.
Can you give some more details about which census records you found him in (place, age, occupation, etc.)?

If he was indeed born in Ireland the census record would merely have said Ireland as it was part of U.K.

[aghadowey]

Here's a link to your other post which already has quite a few replies:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,309353.0/topicseen.html

It is, I suppose, possible that John was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania of Irish/British parents (as per 1851 census) and then raised in Ireland (1841 lists birthplace as Ireland). I think to be listed as born 'Philadelphia British Subject' his parents were likely to be from England/Scotland/Ireland.

[leprechaun]

HI if it's any help on the Philadelphia census I have it says. Born Irish Free State.

[aghadowey]

HI if it's any help on the Philadelphia census I have it says. Born Irish Free State.

Is that 1930 U.S. census by any chance? No such place as 'Irish Free State" until 1920s.

[leprechaun]

 Hello Aghadoey Yes 1930 census. Have just pulled out two lots both were 1930 census.
     I have more around somewhere,but will have a look at them.

[leprechaun]

 Just dug out two more 1920 census Irish Free State

[aghadowey]

Puzzled about 1920 census saying 'Irish Free State' as it didn't exist under that name in 1920:
"The Irish Free State (Irish: Saorstát Éireann) (1922–1937) was the state established as a Dominion on 6 December 1922 under the Anglo-Irish Treaty, signed by the British government and Irish representatives exactly twelve months beforehand"- Wikipedia

[nedda]

Hi,

Sorry been trying to keep up with all the messages, on the few posts I have -

1st problem is that his name keeps changing it's John Kilchrist on 1851 England Census and then John Killchrist on 1841 Census, 1861 Census it's John Gilkerist.  Then on his kid's birth records it's John Gilchrist, - the only factor that stays constant is the "Philidelphia British Subject".

This note has always confused the family, they were of the belief that it was wrong and he was put it down as being born in Philidelphia in Durham.  But the recent Ireland notation on the 1841 Census had thrown us out again.

I did a quick search and couldn't find anything, so as you have all been saying I think it is possible that he was born in Philadelphia, USA to Irish/English parents.  Now I just have to find the records to prove it. 

I've just been reading all about what our pioneering families in Tasmania & Victoria, Australia (another line of my tree) went through, now it looks like my next topic of research will be reading all about the American Revolution.

Thank you all very much for your input.

Nedda