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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 28 June 08 23:33 BST (UK) »
BMD have an Elizabeth Maghie marriage at W Derby March 1859  :)
this could be about right as she would be 19yrs old

there are two males to pick from Patrick Burns and James Mitchell

do I have to send for a marriage certificate to find out if this is Elizabeth

and I suppose i could enter the two mens names

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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 28 June 08 23:42 BST (UK) »
Hang on and I'll try to eliminate them from looking at the 1861 census

If you do want to buy the cert, you can always ask the local reg office to check any known details before you buy (or you can pay a fee for that if you order through the GRO)

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 28 June 08 23:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks Barbara

I have been charged before from GRO when they have done a search for a certificates

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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 28 June 08 23:55 BST (UK) »
Sorry can't see Elizabeth married to either of those two, in 1861 census.  There's a Patrick Burns married to an Elizabeth who was born Wigan, did you realise West Derby is in Lancashire?

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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 June 08 00:36 BST (UK) »
You don't suppose she could have married a Lowthian do you?  ::)  :D

1861 RG9/3901  Folio 83B  Page 4
Plumpton Wall, Cumberland
Thomas Lowthian head m Stonemason b.1833 Lazonby Cumberland
Elizabeth    "         wife  m  Mason's wife  b. 1840 Wetheral, Cumberland


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Re: 1851 look up please
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 29 June 08 00:46 BST (UK) »
Could well be Barbara

Will have to sleep on it off to bed this time
I was going an hour ago but started to enter more into another family tree site I have Tribelpages

Goodnight and thanks again
Elizabeth
McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 29 June 08 08:30 BST (UK) »
You don't suppose she could have married a Lowthian do you?  ::)  :D

1861 RG9/3901  Folio 83B  Page 4
Plumpton Wall, Cumberland
Thomas Lowthian head m Stonemason b.1833 Lazonby Cumberland
Elizabeth    "         wife  m  Mason's wife  b. 1840 Wetheral, Cumberland


Barbara

Probably not :(
Marriages Mar 1860 
Ellison    Elizabeth        Penrith    10b   421   
Lowthian    Thomas         Penrith    10b   421    
Scott    William         Penrith    10b   421    
Walker    Elizabeth         Penrith    10b   421

They were in Plumpton Wall, childless, in 1861 too.
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 29 June 08 09:23 BST (UK) »
Oh, Geoff, thanks for that!  It was just a thought late last night and I didn't follow it through  :D  Thought it would have been too much of a coincidence.

Ho hum, back to the drawing board, or at least back to searching the 1861 for her...

Barbara  :)
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 29 June 08 16:21 BST (UK) »
Just popped in
Thanks to both of you
Like you say Barbara it was a thought and it was very late
Elizabeth
McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth