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Re: 1841 Census Llanelli look-up please
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 July 08 20:59 BST (UK) »
I had my suspicions about the boarders in 1841. I think they're actually Mary's father & brother.
From the full GRO index, Richard James & Mary Rees are both on march qtr 1845 Neath vol 26 pg 515.
The Rees family is in Hafod y Porth in 1841 HO107/1422/19 folio 19 pg 87

1861 Pen y cae cottage, Hafod y Porth, Margam RG9/4081 folio 17 pg 28
Richard James head mar 40 blacksmith b. Llantwit
Mary wife 36 b. Pyle
Thomas son 8 b. Margam
Mary Ann dau 6 b. Margam
Elizabeth dau 2 b. Margam
David son 1 b. Margam
William Rees father-in-law boarder 68 labourer b. St Brides Major

looks like they lost the daughters from 1851 and used the names again.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1841 Census Llanelli look-up please
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 July 08 12:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Osprey,
Thanks for info. Cannot see a family connection with Thomas David but feel that he may be the one I am looking for but doesn't take me back to his parents or right birthplace.
Funny that Richard James is now Blacksmith on 1861 Census from Tea Seller 1851 and now says born Llantwit. Would this be Llantwit Major, Glamorgan?  Getting most curious. No baptism around that area. I have some Parish Registers in book form for that area.
I had same thoughts about the Rees family being in-laws. Question is why would Thomas David be visiting the family. Will keep digging hoping for a break-through.
 Thanks again for your help. Syljun

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Re: 1841 Census Llanelli look-up please
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 July 08 13:46 BST (UK) »
I was a bit worried about ths places of birth, but the father-in-law still with them persuaded me. Adults' ages all match.

I suspect it's Llantwit juxta Neath as he gives Cadoxton in other census entries

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/LlantwitJuxtaNeath/

1871 Oakwood Row, Hafod y Porth, Margam RG10/5424 folio 18 pg 30
Richard James head mar 50 b. Cadoxton
Mary wife 46 b. St Brides
Thomas son 19 coal miner b. Margam
Elizabeth dau 13 b. Margam
David son 12 b. Margam
Rachel dau 9 b. Margam

In 1841, the reference I gave you above, the Rees family were at Oakwood Works, Margam
William 40 hallier
Mary 40
Thomas 12
John 6
Mary 15
Ann 3
all born in county

In 1871, Mary gives St Brides as her place of birth, but not whether it was major or minor, but there is a possible baptism in St Brides Major 26/12/1824, but that could be a coincidence.

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1841 Census Llanelli look-up please
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 July 08 17:35 BST (UK) »
Once again thank you for info. Still can't find a link and wondering about visit.
Understand about Llantwit. There is also of course a Cadoxton-juxta-Barry. When the juxta ? gets left out it is confusing for anyone researching.
I know it does not always follow but Thomas and Margaret David named their first daughter Mary. It's a long shot but will have to investigate Marriages between William David and Mary ?
Their first son was named William presumably after Thomas's Father. If Thomas was born Carmarthen I am assuming the marriage of William and ? was there.
No further forward but hope to get there one day. Thanks again, Syljun