The Garlands Institute

[bobgraham]

There is a birth Q1 1845, liverpool and if you have his fathers name and profession from the marriage cert you could specify that on the search to make sure you get the right one. Deaths I cant help with as we are only up to 1924 (well I am) and so you may have to wait a couple of months for 1926. 
bob

[minimaiden2710]

Hi Bob
William's fathers name......well there lies yet another mystery!!!!!!!! Oh no I can hear you saying.
According to Williams marriage certificate to Annie (in Carlisle), his father is named as,...... wait for it.....WILLIAM BURNETT (deceased).  His profession....Second Lieutenant in the 11th Regt of Foot BUT, whilst having other research done by a professional we had them search for records.  According to military records there was NO William Burnett in the regiment.
Maybe my William was illegitimate and invented a father for the marriage.  Apparently it was a common practice to BEND the truth as no facts are double checked in marriages.  There is no saying the burial found is the correct person but if I don't try and find out I will never know.
I really appreciate the info I am being given.
Kind Regards
Sarah 

[emmsthheight]

Hi Sarah

There are things lilke electoral registers and the indexed cemetery records in the record office.

I've not been for a wi=hile, but hope to eventually.  Feel free to pm me and jog my memory, and I'll dig around.

Meantime, how abiut the various railway ancestors organisations?  There are loads of people round here who are interested in the railways and the people who worked on the railways.

I don't know the details but I'm sure some one will.

Best wishes

Emms

[minimaiden2710]

Hi Emms
If at any time you are at the records office it would be great if you could have a little dig.  I live in Belgium so visits to Carlisle are at maximum once a year....if I'm lucky.
Please let me know if you are going and I will send you any relevant info.  I have been down the Railway ancestor path before but maybe I should give it another go, theres always new info being released.
Thanks again.
Kind Regards
Sarah

[bobgraham]

If there isn't a dedicated railway forum here there is definitely one on british-genealogy.com
A hint - don't put your addy in plain print like that. You'll be overwhelmed by spam. Do it like "seg one oh two dot etc (where one oh two are the actual numbers)" - this fools the spybots roaming the world.
Or give it under private message to just the person you want to know it and not the rest of us.
bob

[emmsthheight]

Hi again Sarah!

The shrunk link below, started life as a six line link, so I hope it works!  I was racking my brain to see what else we can try.  At first I thought WW1 records, Ancestry, then I realised Willliam was too old.

Then I thought National Archives.  If old William wasn't in the foot regiment you were given, maybe he's in another one..  I put the name William Burnett in the Nat Archives search engine and then clicked on Forces or similar. 

In other foot regiments, in the Chelsea documents there are two possibles:  William Burnett born Walton le Dale, and also William Burnett born, unknown.

I don't know if either are worth a try, I had a gggrandfather's Chelsea records.  You van order online.  Specify which part - all if it's short or correct family data or simislar if it's long and you get an estimate of cost in about 24 hours.  then you can order online. 

Mine took about a week, and for less than the price of a cetificate, I got a wadge of beautifully presented A3 sheets flat and protected by heavy card.  still causes great excitement! 

Of course, where was he discharged?? Carlisle Castle!  He was born in Wimborne Dorset and enlisted down there.  So it would be one one way your guy would have got to Carlisle!

The best of it is, can I find where he was in Carlisle or how he got to be married to an Irish lady in Wigan, no time later?  No chamce and I live in Carlisle!!

There are a few slightly later military entries but mostly navy, and carpenter, so they don't really fit the next Wlliam.

Link's below.

You never know!

Best wishes

Emms

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03sx/

[minimaiden2710]

Hi Bob
Hi Emms
Thanks for the info.  Emms, I will print off what you have mentioned and try to get my brain to digest it.  There's a lot to take in.
Bob.....thanks for the hint about e-mail addresses, I did it without thinking.  I have deleted it so fingers crossed.
Incidently was it either of you who sent me an e-mail about The Garlands Hospital?
Thanks again
Sarah XXXX

[emmsthheight]

Hi Sarah

i sent you a pm via Rootschat, but I don't think I sent an Email.

Knowing my memory recently, nothing would amaze me.

Good luck anyway, take your time going through things.

Best wishes

Emms

[bobgraham]

Sarah,
just looking through your interests, I see burnett in Cumbria. One of the biggest solicitors in carlisle is burnetts and the recent principal was david who most of the rugby fraternity in this area would put in a strong association with the garlands. (Only joking David if you're reading this).
bob