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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 20:38 BST (UK) »
Hello - I have just stumbled across and joined this site while looking up "The Woodhouse" from a picture I have recently discovered in an old! trunk.  The back of the picture reads:  "The ancestral  mansion where your Great great grandmother lived Alex (my grandfather-Alexander).  Lower Guiting Gloucestershire.  We stayed near at a griends cotage and Jess had me chasing round the church & the bone year, looking for the twigs on the family tree.  We went over the house, there is some glorious oak panelling in it."  It is a small picture but definitely the same place as what appears to be called "The Manor" today.  Naturally there is no date on the picture nor does it say who wrote the message.  Here is what I know:   
                                  Alexander William Wilkie b1893

                             

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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 21:05 BST (UK) »
OOps, sorry I hit a button I shouldn't have, new to the game....this message is the completion of my previous one.

So,       Paternal Side:       Alexander William Wilkie b. 1893 (Alex in note)
                                       William Frederick  b. 1867 c. 1908  m. Jessie Allan Wylie
                                       Frederick William b. 1843-1845  m. Ellen Lusty
                                       Edmund b. 1826  m. Isabella
                                       great-greats-unknown

            Maternal Side:      Jessie Allan Wylie (Alex's mother) b.1864
                                       Kezia East b.1834 m. Alexander Wylie b.1835:Scotland)
                                       Susannah b. 1796 m. John East b.1797
                                       great-greats-unknown

Do any of these names ring true and correlate to any of the documents I have read about in other posts about "The Woodhouse." I would love to hear from you if they do or if anyone has any other leads.  Is there a site where the ownership/occupants of a heritage home, besides a census, can be looked up? I apologize for the typos in the previous post, my father would be appalled!  My keyboard has sticky keys and due to the premature post, I didn't get a chance to proof read.  Thank you in advance, Judy (in Canada)

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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 02 August 18 14:03 BST (UK) »
Re: Kezie EAST born 1834  (age 24 on marriage certificate)

Marriage Certificate on Ancestry - married Saint Stephen's Birmingham on the 25 January 1859 - her father was John EAST, Gamekeeper (witnesses: John & Sarah HORLICK)
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Kezia EAST baptised at Guitings Power - 6 July 1834, parents: John (Gamekeeper) and Susan


1841 census, Glos, Power Guytings

EAST

John 44, Charles 21, Edmundo, 17, John 13, Job 11, James 9, Susannah 45, and Keziah 6

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Probate

George EAST of Woodhouse Farm, Temple Guitings, Winchcombe Gloucestershire - died 21 February 1924.

Probate London 7 May to Allan Alcey EAST and John ARKELL, Farmers


'is there a site where the ownership/occupants of a heritage home, besides a census, can be looked up?'


Lloyd George Survey of Land Values Gloucestershire

https://www.glos1909survey.org.uk


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GA/D2428/2/156 - Hereditament Number 157

Place: Temple Guitings
Income tax parish: Guitings Power
Date when served: 31/07/1913

Occupied by:

EAST, G (Mr M)

People holding property:  Corpus Christie College, The Bursar, Corpus Christie College, Oxford (OWNER)

Type of Property: Business

PROPERTY:

Description: house buildings and land
Address: Woodhouse Farm
Size: 79 acres 1 rood 38 perches

Map reference: 21.13 H  (Map link is in the heading on the above website)

Gross Value: 790
Site Value: 350
Difference: 620
Agricultural Value: 840

Comments: 2 hereditaments


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On the 1911 census for Temple Guitings, Wood House Farm, Winchcombe

George EAST aged 61 married Farmer - (plus his family)



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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 02 August 18 17:14 BST (UK) »

1861 Census,

Wood House

John EAST - aged 65 - Ag Lab. born Glos. Guitings Power
Susannah - 66 - - born Glos, (says...  Glos. Paddington)

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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 02 August 18 18:54 BST (UK) »
Wow!!  Amazing information Capetown.  Thank you so very much.  This is definitely what I was looking for and the springboard I needed.  I so appreciate the time you took to find this for me.  Now if I can just find the other side....
Cheers, Judy

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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 02 August 18 20:22 BST (UK) »
?

Assume you are trying to follow Kezia (nee EAST) husband's line (Alexander WYLIE c1834 born Scotland) both he and his father (Alexander) were Cabinet Makers according to the marriage certificate.


I'll have to go through this census return - as it seems most likely - but as it's Scottish - can't see the whole page

Perth, 1851 census

WYLIE

Alexander - 61 - cabenet maker master, employing two men - born Mensdio, Perthshire
Maria - 37 - born, Kenmore, Invernesshire
Alexander - 17 - cabinet maket - born, Perth, Perthshire - as was his siblings.  ***
Maria - 10
Andrew - 8
Mary A - 6
Isabella - 3
Dainel - 1

Can see on Ancestry Alexander aged 17 - baptism, no date, but says, Alexander WYLIE and Maria MACKAY

Ancestry
Alexander WYLIE married Maria MACKAY - 30 May 1840, Perth, Scotland

various children's baptisms also on Ancestry and Electoral Registers


for example

1868 Electoral Register,

Alexander WYLIE, 224 High Street, Perth, Cabinet Maker & Shop


1860 :  190 & 192 High Street, Perth

Alexander WYLIE, Cabinet Maker, occupant of Workshop and Wareroom


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1861 Scottish Census

190 High Street

WYLIE

Alex 71 - cabinet maker, born, Scone, Perth
Maria - 48 - born Kingussie, Inverness
John - 40 - Piano Forte Lunn
Maria - 20
Andw - 18 - Teacher Eng Grammer
Isabella - 13
Daniel - 11
Jemima - 9
David - 6
Grace - 2


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1891 Census, Perth

Maria WYLIE - 77
Jemima WYLIE - 37
Grace M WYLIE - 31

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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #33 on: Friday 03 August 18 05:27 BST (UK) »
 Capetown, I am interested in following the Alexander Wylie line,thank you again for all the information. I was able to find out that John and Susanna lived in the Woodhouse!  I am also interested in following the William Frederick Wilkie, who married Jessie Allan Wylie, AW's daughter.  I believe they are also from the Gloucester area. I believe his father was Frederick William married to Ellen Lusty but that is as far as I go.

Thanks again, Judy

 

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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #34 on: Friday 03 August 18 09:29 BST (UK) »
Marriage on Ancestry at the Parish of St John Somerset Eastern

10 May 1863

Frederick WILKIE - 20 years, Bachelor, Fitter residence St John's Bridgewater
father: Edmund WILKIE, Engineer

Ellen LUSTY, 18 years, Spinster, residence St John's Bridgewater
father: Robert LUSTY, Engineer

witnesses:  Henry MYERS and Emma GATTER



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1861 Census
Chubbs Cottage
Bridgewater
Somerset


Edmund WILKIE - 35, Engine Fitter, born Taunton
Isabella - 36 - born Taunton
Frederick - 17,Engine Fitter born Taunton,

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Not sure what's going on here, as I couldn't find Edmund and Isabella on the 1851 census with Frederick

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1851 Census
Taunton

Maria REX - aged 56 Widow, Handloom Weaver, born Taunton
George REX - aged 28 son, Postman
Elizabeth WILKEY - aged 26 - Engineer's Wife, born Taunton
Frederick WILKEY - aged 7 - Grandson


1841 Census, Somerset St James

Maria REX - 40 Silk Weaver
George REX - 15
Isabella REX 15
Edwin REX 10


Maria & George REX on 1861 census in Taunton

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As Edmund was an Engineer, was probably working for the Great Western Railways - as like my g grandfather, was all over the place.


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Marriage on Ancestry 15 July 1846 at Taunton St Mary

Edmund WILKEY married Isabella REX

Edmund WILKEY, full age, Bachelor, occupation: Whitesmith, residence: Taunton St James

father: Edward NORTHAM, Plasterer  ***

Isabella REX, Spinster, residence: Taunton St James, father William REX, Silk Weaver


Edmund WILKEY - signs with an X
Isbella - signs with an X


Edwin REX - (signs his name)
Maria REX - (signs with an X)


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Baptism at Taunton St James :

Edmund WILKEY (illegit) - 26 May 1822 - residence: Poor House

mother: Hannah WILKEY



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William REX married Maria PHIPPEN 3 August 1817 at Taunton St Mary
Both of this Parish: Witnesses: Charles GRAY and J LONG


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?  Burial at St Mary's Magdalen, Taunton - 9 June 1847

Edward NORTHAM - aged 67 - residence: Church Square


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?  There is a marriage at Taunton St James

19 December 1825

John COLLEY and Hannah WILKEY

witnesses: Robert & Martha COLLEY

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Re: The Woodhouse, Temple Guiting?
« Reply #35 on: Friday 03 August 18 18:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you Capetown, I will report back....J