1841/51 and/or 1861 Lookup Dyer & Davies

[Debby]

I was wondering if someone/s could do a look up for me on any or all of the above dates.  The people I am looking for are:

David Davies b1827c Llanllawddog Carmarthen Wales


And four siblings
Elizabeth Dyer b1825c  Llanwahary Carmarthen Wales
Rachel Dyer b1826c Llanwahary Carmarthen Wales (possibly Elizabeths twin)
William Dyer b1827c Llanvihangen Carmarthen Wales
Isaac Dyer b1830c Llanvihangen Carmarthen Wales

The father of these four may have been a boot or shoe maker as this was the trade both of the boys were in, and there may have been other siblings.

Thankyou
Debby

[davidpinkney]

1841

Coyty, Llangathen, Carms

Thomas Dyer - 55 - shoemaker
Anne Dyer - 60
Thomas Dyer- 23
Elizabeth Dyer - 18
William Dyer - 15
Isaac Dyer - 10

all born in county

Grongar? East, Llangathen

In a Lewis family household

Rachel Dyer - 20 - F.S - born in county

[davidpinkney]

I presume there is a connection between the Dyer and Davies families?

1851

Graig Trwyddfa, Llangyfelach, Glamorgan

William Dyer - head - 24 - shoemaker - Carmarthen
Rachel Dyer - wife - 32 - Carmarthen
Isaac Dyer - brother - 21 - shoemaker - Carmarthen
Lewis Richard - nephew - 15 - shoemaker - Carmarthen


Also in Graig Trwyddfa, Llangyfelach

David Davies - head - 24 - copperman - Llanllawddog
Elizabeth Davies - wife - 25 - N.K
Thomas Davies - son - 4 - Llangyfelach
James Davies - son - 2 - Llangyfelach
Isaac Davies - son - 2mths - Llangyfelach

[davidpinkney]

from parish records

marriage of Thomas Dyer to Anne David in Llangathen 30/6/1809

[Debby]

Hi David,

Thanks for the information it is wonderful.  Since I posted the original message I had joined Ancestry and also found the same info you did, and you were on exactly the right track.

Elizabeth Dyer married David Davies although I have not found a marriage for them yet, it must have been about 1846 as their first son Thomas was born about 1847.

The marriage record you found didn't happen to list parents of Anne or Thomas or their ages by chance did it?  I know Thomas had a brother or cousin called William Dyer who married Mary Thomas.  William was also a shoe maker like Thomas.

I have found three christening records in the right area for the children of a John Dyer of Llangathen.  The three children listed are Thomas (5 Jun 1786), William (9 Apr 1792) and Mary (13 Apr 1789) but I have not been able to confirm if the Thomas and William christened are the same Thomas and William I have in my tree.

I know there is definitely a family relationship between Thomas and William though, as William's daughter Cecelia was living with Isaac (and co.) in one of the later census.  Interestingly Cecelia also married a man with the surname of Thomas (like her mothers) so he may well have been a cousin too.

Anyway the search continues.  Thanks for your help.

Regards
Debby

[davidpinkney]

sorry i don't have any more info than i have given, good luck!