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« on: Thursday 17 July 08 07:53 BST (UK) »
i am searching 4 any descendants of oliver shelford who lived in new zealand and who married iritana,maori  :)my nana was anne griffin;ne;anne shelford of whangarei  newzealand



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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 July 08 17:40 BST (UK) »
http://www.myrasplace.net/frear/fam01023.htm
 - here's a listing of some children/grandchildren/etc of Oliver Edward Shelford and Iritana Te Raihe Mukai
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Re: shelford
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 08:03 BST (UK) »
 Shelford, Oliver Edward, 1833
 

B. 06 January 1833
Great Chesterford, Essex, UK
D. 20 August 1906
Rawhia, Hokianga, Northland, N.Z
E. Burial
1906
Kaiko Korokota Cemetery, Rangiahua, Hokianga, Northland, N.Z
M. Te Paenga, Iritana
Waima, Hokianga South, N.Z
No marriage record has ever been found
D. 19 April 1919


 
Shelford, Mereana (mary Ann),
1866
B. 29 August 1866
Rawhia, Northland, N.Z
M. Mapi, Ngawhao Aporo
1881
D. 06 May 1906
M. Hare, Korena

Shelford, Thomas Tame,
1867
B. ABT 04 May 1867
Waihou, Northland, NZ
M. Puihi, Te O waina K.
M. Hau, Miria H.

Shelford, Maraea (maria),
1868
B. 10 February 1865
Kohukohu, Northland, NZ
D. 02 November 1947
Public Hospital Hawera, Taranaki, N.Z
E. Burial
03 November 1947
Motuawa Urupa, Winks Road, Manaia Taranaki, N.Z
M. Robinson, James R
03 January 1885
Hokianga, Northland, N.Z
M. Herewaka, Te Rata
1884
 
Shelford, William (wiremu) Paratene, 1871
B. 14 August 1871
Kohukohu, Hokianga, N.Z
D. 14 January 1900
Rangiahua, Northland, N.Z
M. Baker, Catherine
1871
Shelford, David,
1873
B. 04 September 1873
Rawhia, Hokianga, N.Z
Shelford, Pita (Peter Te Hei Hei),
1874
B. ABT 1874
Hokianga, N.Z
D. 16 December 1959
Opara, N.Z
M. Paikaraihe, Ani
13 April 1913
M. Tukariri, Ramari
Shelford, Susan Kare (Huihana) Haerehau, 1875
B. December 1875
Rawhia, Rangiahua, N.Z
D. 1932
M. Haddon, Robert, 1866
Shelford, Rihirora (Elizabeth),
1877
B. ABT 1877
N.Z
D. 1901
N.Z
M. Baildon, John,
1873
Shelford, Edward (Ned),
1865
B. 08 June 1865
Waihou, Northland, N.Z
M. Matenga, Caroline
M. Winiata, Meri
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   About Shelford, Oliver Edward, 1833
For what its worth my info is as follows - according to and at the time of taking of the 1841 census in England, Oliver was 8 yrs of age, which would mean he was born in 1833 - Oliver enlisted in the British Army 20th Jan 1851 and served initially in India before arriving via Norfolk Island in NZ on the ss "Egmont" on 26th June 1854 - On the 4th January 1856 a notice appeared in the NZ Gazette informing all to the affect that an Oliver Edward Shelford aged 23 yrs and 2 mths of age, with brown hair and fair eyes, last seen wearing a red jacket, white pants and size 11 shoes (Army issue?) was a deserter from the NZ Army of HRH Queen Victoria - the dates of birth for his and Iritana children could be in doubt - however their son-in-law - Tahupotiki Haddon - was a Wesleyan Minister and it is thru his investigations and record keeping that most of the early Shelford details are handed down to us - Iritana is recorded on Olivers death certificate as - Edie Mukai








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Re: shelford
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 08:06 BST (UK) »
hope this helps
if you need more help
me know my mums a
shelford and these are her great great
grandparents

                                          Te Paenga, Iritana, 1839
              
                                    B. 26 March 1839
                                             Manaia, Taranaki, NZ
                                         D. 19 April 1919
                                              Manaia, Taranaki, NZ
                                        M. Shelford Oliver E.
                                              Waima, Hokianga South, NZ
                                         D. 20 August 1906
                                        M. Nui, Tamati
                                              20 June 1858
                                              Wairau, Kaipara, Rodney, NZ
                                        M. Russell, William
                                              1 February 1862
                                              Waima, Hokianga South, NZ
Shelford, Edward (Ned),
1865
B. 08 June 1865
Waihou, Northland, N.Z
M. Matenga, Caroline
M. Winiata, Meri
Shelford, Mereana (mary Ann),
1866
B. 29 August 1866
Rawhia, Northland, N.Z
M. Mapi, Ngawhao Aporo
1881
D. 06 May 1906
M. Hare, Korena

Shelford, Thomas Tame,
1867
B. ABT 04 May 1867
Waihou, Northland, NZ
M. Puihi, Te O waina K.
M. Hau, Miria H.

Shelford, Maraea (maria),
1868
B. 10 February 1865
Kohukohu, Northland, NZ
D. 02 November 1947
Public Hospital Hawera, Taranaki, N.Z
E. Burial
03 November 1947
Motuawa Urupa, Winks Road, Manaia Taranaki, N.Z
M. Robinson, James R
03 January 1885
Hokianga, Northland, N.Z
M. Herewaka, Te Rata
1884
 
Shelford, William (wiremu) Paratene, 1871
B. 14 August 1871
Kohukohu, Hokianga, N.Z
D. 14 January 1900
Rangiahua, Northland, N.Z
M. Baker, Catherine
1871
Shelford, David,
1873
B. 04 September 1873
Rawhia, Hokianga, N.Z
Shelford, Pita (Peter Te Hei Hei),
1874
B. ABT 1874
Hokianga, N.Z
D. 16 December 1959
Opara, N.Z
M. Paikaraihe, Ani
13 April 1913
M. Tukariri, Ramari
Shelford, Susan Kare (Huihana) Haerehau, 1875
B. December 1875
Rawhia, Rangiahua, N.Z
D. 1932
M. Haddon, Robert, 1866
Shelford, Rihirora (Elizabeth),
1877
B. ABT 1877
N.Z
D. 1901
N.Z
M. Baildon, John,
1873
Russell, Emily Adelaide,
1862
B. ABT 1862
N.Z
D. N.Z
Iritanaís and Oliverís children



About Te Paenga, Iritana, 1839



There appears to be no marriage certificate issued between Iritana and Oliver Edward Shelford, and to add to the confusion, our Great Great Grandmother, the person known as, Iritana, appears on numerous birth, death and some marriage certificates, under the following names: Edie, Edy, Edi, Iri, Ira, Ettie, Edith, and Ada! While her family names appear with just as many variations, such as: Te Paenga, Raihi, Raehe, Raiehe, Poinamu, Mokai, Mukai, Taua and even, Russell, which could be where we get her family names of, Raihi, Raehe, Raiehe, who knows? The Russell name, came after her marriage to William Russell. A possible reason for the numerous Maori names could lie in the fact that European settlers often wrote down (literally) what they thought they heard the Maori person they were talking to, say their name was etc - For instance the original name for Keri Keri was written in the European hand as, Kiddi Kiddi, because that is what they thought the speaker said, the speaker in this case, being Maori, who (at that time) had no written language, they communicated thru Whakairo (carving) Tukutuku panels made from harakeke (flax) and toitoi, Waiata (song/s) and of course Te Reo (the spoken language) and/or incantations. So the shortened version of the name Iritana is Iri, and when pronounced sounds as if you are saying - Iddi etc - the R in Maori is - if not always then usually - rolled on the tongue - just as the Scots do - hence the possible reason for the multiple (Pakeha/European) spellings

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Re: shelford
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 13:03 BST (UK) »
Hi sinetascott

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Thank you for sharing your information. However, dev8r hasn't been online here since 2008.

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Fingers crossed, they come back soon.

Dawn

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