Author Topic: Lady Ellisha Mathew  (Read 98078 times)

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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #126 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 02:47 BST (UK) »
I am coming into the discussion late...My Uncle had an old Tree, and on it it says that Ellisha Mathew married secretly and morganatically George Prince of Wales (later George IV). From this union were three children...the middle one names as Robert Fitzwilliam Mathew married to Mary Godfrey....their child is listed as Thomas Mathew married to Sarah Withey from whom I am descended.

I am inclined to dismiss this tree as rubbish even though I was brought up on this story of being related to the Royal family as the dates do not seem to match up. My Thomas being born around 1788 and the relationship between Ellisha and George would have been around 1788, so George could NOT have been my Thomas's grandfather!

But This Tree seems to have been 'sold' to my g grandfather as a legitimate Tree.

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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #127 on: Monday 26 November 18 08:06 GMT (UK) »
The Mathew title became extinct on the death of Francis (second earl) in 1833 and his brothers George and Montaqu - all died childless. According to my records The 2nd Earl (Franicis) had an illegitimate son called Thomas James by his girlfriend Anne West in London. He was married to Gertrude LaTouche, from a famous Dublin banking family. 

Good day, all. Wyseass fascinating research. Where did you obtain the record of Thomas James being born to Francis?

Lovely to join you all here.


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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #128 on: Monday 26 November 18 09:15 GMT (UK) »
I've only just come across this post, and without wanting to butt in and hijack it,  it may well be very helpful for my research! I was born a Mathews, and have been researching my Irish and possibly a Welsh Mathews family connection to the clergy for many years!   My Dad had told me that our Mathews family was originally from Ireland and Wales back further, so  things in this thread are ringing bells, but I'm going to write up some details over the next few days, things that may make more sense than if I do it now!  So I'll get busy with my gentleman Henry Maxwell Mathews Esq, and his wife Sarah Annie "no name", and their offspring!!

Watch this space, but in the meantime, I have an old Scavenger Hunt on RC, take a look, there are a few more details in there!

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=717638.36

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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #129 on: Tuesday 03 March 20 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Very interested in continuing this thread, if anyone is out there still monitoring, please chime in!



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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #130 on: Tuesday 03 March 20 23:17 GMT (UK) »



Draft pedigrees of the Mathew family, Earls of Landaff and of Annefield and Thomastown, Co. Tipperary, with correspondence of Geo. B. Mathew to Sir William Betham 1838, with note on Anne Mathew (mother of Nano Nagle) who died Jan., 1748.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms. 814 (3)
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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #131 on: Tuesday 03 March 20 23:19 GMT (UK) »



Genealogical Office report on Mathew of Wexford, Mathew of Bonnettstown, Co. Kilkenny and Mathew of Thurles and Annefield, c.1600 -- 1850.

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.814(8)


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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #132 on: Tuesday 03 March 20 23:20 GMT (UK) »


above   Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Genealogical Office: Ms.814 ( 8 )
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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #133 on: Tuesday 03 March 20 23:23 GMT (UK) »



Notes of evidence presented in the Chancery Court during a dispute case between George Mathew, Plaintiff, and Joseph Jaques, defendant, concerning lands in Thomastown and Ballymakeady, Co. Tipperary, 1673.

Belfast: Belfast Public Record Office, T.2993

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Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« Reply #134 on: Tuesday 03 March 20 23:25 GMT (UK) »



Photocopy of notes on the family of Mathew of Wales and Ireland, also pedigree of the family, 12th-19th c., prepared by Robert Mathew, 20th c.


Subjects:    
Mathew, family of
Mathew, Robert > M.P., T.D.
Mathew, Theobald > Rev.
Manuscripts > Private Collections

Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Ms. 21,718

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