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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 19 July 08 16:19 BST (UK) »
Debbie  -  don't worry about the age difference!  It was quite common for there to  be a 1 or two year swing from census to census - maybe they weren't sure - maybe they forgot - 1 one year swing is nothing - believe me !  Look at his brother - Samuel - 4 in 1881 and 15 in 1891

And yes - I do enjoy and am having a ball here  :D

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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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« Reply #28 on: Saturday 19 July 08 16:39 BST (UK) »
Both accounts make me feel better! :)
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« Reply #29 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:17 BST (UK) »
Found another problem .....
1881 census - Martha  Age 2  Born Longton
1901 census - Martha  Age 12  Born Manchester

Is it possible the first one died and they had another child and named her after the first?
 ???
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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:18 BST (UK) »
Think you'll like this   ;D

1871 census
Edward W Edwards aged 21, living in Cound, Salop, working as blacksmiths assistant.  Worked for blacksmith Humphrey Roberts.

1861 census:    RG9. P. 2165  Fol. 85  Pg. 19
 23 Branston Street, Birmingham

EDWARDS
Richard  Head  M  39   Tailor              B.  Shrewsbury
Sarah  Wife  M  38                             B. Shrewsbury
Sarah  Dau  Un  18  Steel Pan Maker   B.  Shrewsbury
Edward W  Son  10  Brass Dresser      B. Dovenedge, Staffs
Mary E   Dau  8                                     B. Birmingham
Eleanor  Dau  5                                     B. Birmingham
Martha A  Dau  2                                  B. Birmingham
Samuel R  Son  1 month                       B. Birmingham(this is probably the visitor in 1891, aged 30 ?)

1851 census:  HO107.  P. 2023  Fol. 24.  Pg. 40

Pool Street, Walsall Foreign

EDWARDS
Richard  Head  M  29  Tailor   B.  Shrewsbury
Sarah  Wife  M  28                 B. Shrewsbury
Sarah  Dau  8                         B. Shrewsbury
Richard Morgan  Son  6          B.  Shrewsbury
Edward William  Son  1           B. Walsall


and the bonus ball   ;D

1841 census :  HO107  P. 927/13  Fol. 38  Pg. 19

Church Street, St Mary's Shrewsbury

EDWARDS
Edward  55    Shoemaker
Sarah   44
Richard  20   Tailors apprentice
Elizabeth  15
Thomas  25  Painter & Glazier
Catherine  20

On the IGI :  Richard Edwards  b. 7 July 1821  Baptised 26 Aug 1821  St Marys, Shrewsbury.  Parent Edward Edwards and Sarah.

Other children baptised St. Mary's that time, Parents Edward and Sarah:
Thomas  1814;  Martha  1817;  Edward  1819;  William  1820;  John  1824;  Elizabeth  1826.

So now you have George's father = Edward W Edwards;  George's grandfather = Richard Edwards;  George's Great grandfather  =  Edward Edwards

Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott


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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:19 BST (UK) »
Found another problem .....
1881 census - Martha  Age 2  Born Longton
1901 census - Martha  Age 12  Born Manchester

Is it possible the first one died and they had another child and named her after the first?
 ???

Possible - I'll take another look and come back.......
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:23 BST (UK) »
WOW! You truly are amazing!  :) :) :)
Thank you so very very much!
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« Reply #33 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:25 BST (UK) »
Here's the full entry for the household of Sarah Ann THOMAS in 1871 which I mentioned earlier:


1871 census
RG10/2745/60/17
Hallow, Worfield, Shropshire


Martha Thomas Head W 60 Household work Shropshire Nean
William do Son Unm 34 Ag lab Shropshire Worfield
Henry do Son Unm 21 Ag lab Shropshire Worfield
Sarah A do Daur Unm 16 Domestic servant (out of employ) Shropshire Worfield

Anna :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #34 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:31 BST (UK) »
Found another problem .....
1881 census - Martha  Age 2  Born Longton
1901 census - Martha  Age 12  Born Manchester

Is it possible the first one died and they had another child and named her after the first?
 ???

Possible - I'll take another look and come back.......

Well, this is based only on the index, and certificates would be needed to prove, but

Martha Edwards B 1879  died Q2. 1781 Stoke on Trent District

Martha Edwards  born Q2. 1889 Manchester

So yes, it's possible that's what happened - quite common to re-use the name.

Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 19 July 08 17:33 BST (UK) »
I'll say it again, you're amazing!
The details for the Martha you just gave me, I assume that's Sarahs mum?
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