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France: i cant find the town in france
« on: Monday 04 August 08 09:17 BST (UK) »
my ggrandfather was born in france so were his siblings i found this on familysearch

Thos. PERRY Household
    Male   
 
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  Other Information:
    Birth Year <1835> 
    Birthplace Decashill (B S), France 
    Age 46 
    Occupation Sheet Iron Shearer 
    Marital Status M <Married> 
    Head of Household Thos. PERRY
    Relation Head 
   
I have looked for Decashill but no searchs found on a later census it says born in Paris I believe this is a spelling mistake, is there a town in Paris with a name sounding like Decashill.

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Re: i cant find the town in france
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 August 08 09:30 BST (UK) »
I have looked for Decashill but no searchs found on a later census it says born in Paris I believe this is a spelling mistake, is there a town in Paris with a name sounding like Decashill.
I'm local and I'm sorry to say, even staring at the image where it looks more like Deca*r*ll to me, I really can't think of one  :-\ :-\
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Re: i cant find the town in france
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 August 08 10:58 BST (UK) »

I have no idea where it is either. I see you have another posting on this subject
without success

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Forums/viewtopic/p=72708.html

Bonjour Tati, ça va?
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Re: i cant find the town in france
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 August 08 11:01 BST (UK) »
When you have Staffordshire families in the iron trade with children born in France, you need to look at the ironworks that were being set up in France at the time. English workers, usually from Staffordshire, were brought to France to work and to teach the local workers their methods. After a some years most of them returned to England - by the 1840s there were enough French ironworkers that they no longer needed to rely on imported labour.

There is a book on Google Books called 'The Industrial Revolution in Iron: The Impact of British Coal Technology'.  It mentions various of these ironworks, and their links to Staffordshire and Wales - including one at Decazeville.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decazeville
 - quite possibly this is where the family were, at least part of the time. There were ironworks near Paris as well, so they could have been in that area for a bit.
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Re: i cant find the town in france
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 August 08 11:20 BST (UK) »
(Hi Geoff :D)

Well done Jorose!! 8) Quite a way from Paris indeed  :P
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Re: i cant find the town in france
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 09:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your replies it has given me new things to work on.

Lynne
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Re: France: i cant find the town in france
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 May 17 04:33 BST (UK) »
Did you ever find the town? I realise this is a long ago post. My direct great great etc.... grandfather is the same Thomas Perry (my father was also Thomas Perry by the way) and this is the same stumbling block I've come to with him. Decashill ...

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Re: France: i cant find the town in france
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 May 17 07:34 BST (UK) »
Did you ever find the town? I realise this is a long ago post. My direct great great etc.... grandfather is the same Thomas Perry (my father was also Thomas Perry by the way) and this is the same stumbling block I've come to with him. Decashill ...

    This is interesting for me as I have been looking at the Perry Family in the last week.   It is just odd that these coincidences keep happening to me.   In fact I had emails yesterday from a cousin who lives on the other side of Port Philip Bay, Melbourne, Australia from me, mentioning her Perry Family.    John Oliver was the brother of my great grandmother Jane Oliver and he married Jane Perry whose father James Perry had come up to Consett County Durham where I was also born, from Staffordshire.  James Perry was born either Pelsall or Wednesbury but lived at one time at Bilston. 

    For the last two or three weeks a few of us have looked for and now solved a mystery of some letters written to the half sister of John and Jane Oliver, who was Elizabeth Anne Fullwood.  Her father Emanuel Fullwood who drowned while drunk at sea in a small boat in 1849 at Sunderland had gone to Bishopwearmouth Steel Works from Bilston, Staffs.    We then looked for help from some Fullwood's and one of their trees was full of Perry's of Bilston.    Another connection in this same search was a Family of Gee's and they are also in the John Oliver family and they also have popped up in different searches within the same week.

    The French connection puts a new look on the Perry Family, so thanks again for bringing it up.
   Malcolm
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Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
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Re: France: i cant find the town in france
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 May 17 21:35 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the OP has not be around lately - last here about a year ago - but hopefully she will get an email about this thread.

Since 2008 more French genealogy has become available online, much of it through the individual departmental archives.  Decazeville is part of the department of Aveyron, and their archives are at:
http://archives.aveyron.fr

Looking at records from Decazeville, 1833-1842, for example, I see
one under Perry, (Edouard), 11 November 1836

Edouard Perry was the son of Richard Perry, aged 32, from England, and his wife Rebecca aged 31, also from England.

Possibly this same couple had children baptised in Paris in 1833, Richard and Martha.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQK7-NY1
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F73R-99H
(Unfortunately a lot of birth records from Paris of this period were destroyed)

They may be the same couple who had a daughter Anne baptised in Bilston in 1828:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQFQ-N38


While looking for what happened to the rest of the family, I note that in 1851 Richard is back in England with several of these children (and your Thomas), youngest Sarah b. about 1845, and no Rebecca.

Could this be her burial, in Havre?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQY9-SQ7
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