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WARD - Nottingham
« on: Wednesday 06 August 08 19:48 BST (UK) »
I am looking for information on my grandfather's family.  His name was Charles William Ward Sands (born June 1903) and immigrated to Canada in 1912 as an orphan in the Dr. Barnardo Home for Children (Nottingham).  He was placed in the orphanage in approximately 1906.  His biological father's name was Samuel Ward and his mother's name was Florence Smith Sands.  She married and divorced George Sands and lived common-law with Samuel Ward.  Together they had four children - Millicent, Henry, Charles and John.  Following her death, all four children were placed in the orphanage by their father, Samuel Ward, as he could not care for them.  However, when he placed them in the orphanage he added Florence's married name, Sands, to their surname.  My grandfather passed away in 1968 not knowing that he actual surname was Ward, not Sands.  This was discovered by my father when he wrote to Barnardo's for information.

We are trying to find relatives of Samuel Ward of Nottingham.  If you have any information at all, it would be very much appreciated.

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Re: WARD - Nottingham
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 August 08 19:44 BST (UK) »
This looks like Samuel and Florence on the 1901 census:

RG13/3176; Folio 76; Page 15
1 Moffatt St, Nottingham

Samuel WARD - Head - M - 34 - Iron Fitter
Florence A SANDS - M - Housekeeper - 31
Thomas P WARD - Son - 10 - School
George L SANDS - Son - 7 -School
Robert F SANDS - Son - 5 -School
Samuel H SANDS - Son - 3 -School
Herbert W SANDS - Son - 2 -School
John W SANDS - Son - 1
(All born Nottingham.)

From Free BMD:

Births Mar 1899   
SANDS   Herbert Ward       
Nottingham 7b 363

Births Jun 1900   
SANDS   John Ward        
Nottingham 7b 344

Births Jun 1902
SANDS   Florence Ward        
Nottingham 7b 361

Births Sep 1903 
SANDS   Charles Ward        
Nottingham 7b 378

On the 1891 census, Samuel is married to Frances:

RG12/2701; Folio 149; Page 49
8 Florence St,Nottingham

Samuel WARD - Head - 25 - Iron Fitter
Francis WARD - Wife - 24
Albert WARD - Son - 5
Percy WARD - Son - 6 mo     (full name Thomas Percy)

I'll try and find out what happened to Albert.....

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Re: WARD - Nottingham
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 August 08 19:51 BST (UK) »
Very helpfully, Albert is with his maternal grandparents in 1901:

RG13/3167; Folio 67; Page 26
37 Waterway St, Nottingham

Frances M PETCHELL - Head - 61
George A PETCHELL - Son - 27 - Hosiery Knitter
John A PETCHELL - Son - 23 - Iron Fitter
Albert P PETCHELL - Son - 21 - Sawyer
Albert E WARD - G Son - 15 - Iron Moulder
John W WARD - G Son - 7
(All born Nottingham.)

Marriages Dec 1884
PETCHELL   Frances Maria    
WARD   Samuel   
Nottingham 7b 501

Do you want earlier census info for Samuel Ward?

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Re: WARD - Nottingham
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 August 08 15:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for the replies.  From reading your reply I can now see that my grandfather, Charles Ward Sands had many half- siblings.  Would you be able to find any information concering the following and their families:

Thomas Sands
George Sands
Robert Sands
Samuel Sands
Albert Ward
John Ward

Once again, I thank you for your help.

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Re: WARD - Nottingham
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 August 08 17:14 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately it's always more difficult working forwards than backwards, and both surnames are fairly common, so there are several possible marriages/deaths in the index.  The only one I can be reasonably sure about is Samuel SANDS, as he is the only one with middle initial H on FreeBMD:

Marriages Mar 1924
SANDS    Samuel H
FAULKES    Alice M
Nottingham 7b 556

This is probably their daughter:

Births Jun 1924   
SANDS    Amelia M    (mother FAULKES)   
Bingham 7b 898

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Re: WARD - Nottingham
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 July 17 15:07 BST (UK) »
There was a Samuel Ward who lived on the Beauvale Estate in Hucknall Notts back then......He married a woman called Emma, they could not have children but fostered and adopted a boy who was born in the war, put ip for adoption and was called Christopher who is no 73 and lives in Derby....He is on Facebook........This Sam Ward was from an orphanage.........