GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover

[nudge67]

I'm hoping for some help from someone with access to german records with the DEGENHARDT familt of Clausthal, in the Hartz mountains, Hanover, Germany.

3 brothers, all in their 20's, migrated to Australia aboard the Heerjeebhoy Rustomjee Patel from Bremen (sailed 1846-06-27). They were:
Johann Carl August DEGENHARDT
Friedrich DEGENHARDT
Gustav Julias Whilhelm DEGENHARDT

Also on that ship was 19 year old Carl Herman DEGENHARDT, from the same town. I beleive he may have been another brother or a cousin. He is my gt-gt-gt-grandfather.

In 1849, the brothers brought the rest of their extended family (parents, sisters, brothers-in-law, etc.) out aboard the George Washington under a government assisted migration scheme. Unfortunately, a cholera outbreak aboard the ship all but wiped out the group, including the parents, Carl Heinrich Christian DEGENHARDT & Johanna Dorothea Freidericke DEGENHARDT nee LADER/LATER.

I'm wondering if someone could confirm for me that Carl is part of that family, and supply me with a birthdate for him. He was born around 1826.

Cheers
Nudge

[Raphael]

Hello Nudge,
I think you may have already looked at this site, and several others on Google

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/heerjeebhoyrustomjeepatel1846.htm

Might help if you not seen it. I am looking in this area for someone too, but not related to you. If I see a definate link I will keep you in mind.

Best Wishes
Kind Regards
Raphael
UK & Germany.

[JustinL]

Hello Nudge,

How's your German?

The place to start is the state archives of Lower Saxony (Niedersaechsisches Landesarchiv). A quick look in their on-line database revealed 30 records for the extended Degenhardt family. The first three brothers you mentioned appear to have been living in Polsterthal when they emigrated.

http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/

Interestingly, your Degenhardts actually ran an emigration agency!

The attched PDF file contains all the 'hits' from the database.

Justin

[nudge67]

Thanks Justin & Raphael

I had the ships list already. The PDF file from germany is loaded with info. I'm looking foraward to translating that.

Cheers
Nudge

[Greenemma]

Hi Nudge,

Is this man related to you?

William Arthur Degenhardt born about 1859
parents are Herman Degenhardt and Louisa Rhodes.


William married my great aunt Susan Magee
he was her second husband, she was married to Cornelius O'Connor who died in 1890 then married William Degenhardt
they lived in Ballarat and Beaufort, Victoria, Australia

[nudge67]

G'day Greenemma,

Bingo! 

(Carl) Hermann DEGENHARDT and Louisa RHODES had a daughter, Louisa Jane, born 3 June 1861 in Kadina, South Australia. She is my gt-gt-grandmother.

I'm willing to exchange information on the Degenhardt & Rhodes families if you wish.

Cheers
Nudge

[Greenemma]

Thanks, I've pm my email address

[Raphael]

G'day Greenemma,

Bingo! 

(Carl) Hermann DEGENHARDT and Louisa RHODES had a daughter, Louisa Jane, born 3 June 1861 in Kadina, South Australia. She is my gt-gt-grandmother.

I'm willing to exchange information on the Degenhardt & Rhodes families if you wish.

Cheers
Nudge

Hi Nudge
Still looking for my relatives, not related to the Dagenhardts, but saw this reference which you may already have.
  DEGENHARDT, Carl Heinrich Christian; Occ Grubensteiger; age 58;         died Nov 2, on voyage.       
   DEGENHARDT, Johanne Dorothea Friedericke nee LADER; age 55;         died Nov 21, on voyage.           
  DEGENHARDT, Johann Carl Lugwig; age 24;    
   DEGENHARDT, Wilhelm Heinrich; Age; 16     
   DEGENHARDT, Auguste Louise; Age; 

From this I note that parents Carl and Dorothea are the only two of the Dagenharts's famlily who died on the voyage.
I am continuing with my reseach of my ancestesters, and if I come across any further references to the Dagenhardt's I will let you know. Incidently Grübensteiger is a head miner; mine foreman; pit boss; shift boss, which you may already know.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Kind regards
Raphael
UK & Germany.

[JillianH]

 Dear  nudge67

I was very interested to come across your information on this site. Johann Carl August Degenhardt b. 1818 was my G-G Grandfather.  He later married a Lina ?(Augustine Alwine) Barth who travelled on the same ship (H-R Patel ) to Port Adelaide in 1846 .

They had 4 children.


I didn't know that their parents came out only to die of cholera.If you know anything more of the family please let us know.

Jillian