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From Paisley to Glasgow
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 06:34 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for a geography lesson and/or links to show some details of my ggg grandparents & family trip from Paisley and onto a boat to Liverpool.

This is from their diary - 1833

We left Paisley, 1st August for Glasgow, with two carts of luggage and one with the women and children, stopt at the east toll and weighed our carts and found them to contain 25 cwt each and went on to the 3 mile house and watered our horses and had dinner with Joseph Clarke. Went to Glasgow and arrived there about one o'clock. Unloaded our carts and put our baggage on board the Vulcan Steamship, bound for Liverpool. Sailed at half the four o'clock.

In coming down the river we stuck in the mud on the south side above the Village of Goven. We thought all was over until --- but our captain ordered a line to be made fast on the other side of the river, and all hands to the windlass soon brought her off. Mrs Brock and Janet Hamilton waved to them from the house. Mr Peacock and a great number of gentleman passed and gave us 3 cheers, we returned the compliment. We were now past Renfrew Ferry and the scenery was beautiful on both sides of the river. Arrived at Greenock and waited about 10 minutes and sailed with a number more passengers.

Would the road to Glasgow be named?
What would be the east toll? Would they have to pay a toll
What would be the 3 mile house - an inn?
Is the Vulcan the name of a steamship or a type of steamship
What is the name of the river where they were stuck in the mud?
Goven & Greenock - separate towns or suburbs of Glasgow?
the Renfrew Ferry? was it a passenger ferry? from where to where?

My apologies for knowing so little.

Trish
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Re: From Paisley to Glasgow
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 September 08 07:27 BST (UK) »
Quick answer from my memory.

Road to Glasgow was and is called Glasgow Road and just past an area called Ralston it changes to Paisley Road West.  I lived in Glasgow Road for 3 years.

East Toll I'll need to check.

3 Mile House is familiar but not sure

Vulcan?

The river is probably the White Cart

Govan is an area of Glasgow but back then would have been a village on it's own.

Greenock is North of Glasgow - have a look at Google maps

Renfrew Ferry was primarily a passenger ferry - went across The Clyde from Renfrew to Yoker.  It still exists but is no longer in use as a ferry.  It is now moored on The Clyde near Jamaica Bridge and is used as a club and concert venue.

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Re: From Paisley to Glasgow
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 September 08 08:51 BST (UK) »
Trish/Dave

East Toll could refer to present day area called Eastwood Toll near Rouken Glen, Giffnock which is another major route from Glasgow to Paisley.

Sailing from Glasgow to Greenock via Govan I would have thought that they were on the River Clyde.

3 mile house sounds like some kind of staging post/inn

You will be able to view the area on www.old-maps.co.uk

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Re: From Paisley to Glasgow
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Re: From Paisley to Glasgow
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 September 08 15:56 BST (UK) »
Yes sanct, you're right about the river.  My mind was in Paisley gear.  The Cart runs through Paisley Trish.
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Re: From Paisley to Glasgow
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 September 08 16:26 BST (UK) »
Just had a look at the 1864 Paisley map and it shows the weighing machine on the Glasgow road (near present day Hillington) and further along the road it shows Three-mile House (around present day Cardonald)

Later edit

I would say the weighing machine would be on the junction of Paisley Road West and Crookston Road if it were still there today

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Re: From Paisley to Glasgow
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 September 08 17:05 BST (UK) »
I wonder whether 3 Mile House is near what we now know as Halfway, near The Park and Loudens pubs. 
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Re: From Paisley to Glasgow
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 September 08 17:32 BST (UK) »
You could be right Dave, by 1924 it looks as if it changed its name to Halfwayhouse and it is oppsite Nazareth House and slightly to the east

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Dont know my easts from my wests  ;D

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Re: From Paisley to Glasgow
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 September 08 17:44 BST (UK) »
For some reason, I can't open the maps on old-maps.co.uk
I'm on laptop so will try on PC later 
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FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)