Trying to Go Back Further Than 1801- james reid

[angelasindyreid]

HI I am new to this site so a bit stuck, help please,

I have traced our family back to a JAMES REID born 1801 he married a MARY SHEIL 0n 24th March 1824 in KELSO Scotland at the time he was the School Master, his parents are not listed but the wedding registered says they are both from this Parish.. 

In the 1841 Scottish Census he and his wife and 7 children - thomas 1825, anthony 1826, james 1828,  william 1832, john 1834, lyle 1836 (our line) and jane 1838 - were living in The School House in Beith. Lyle goes on to have a son Kenneth - born in dundee 4th march 1873 - with wife Magaret Henderson who he married in dundee.

Can anyone please help trace James Reid  and Mary Sheil in Kelso 1801 thanks thanks

[chesters]

Hi,

A possible christening for Mary:
Mary Sheils 23 Dec 1798 Kelso parents: Anthony & Jean (nee Holme)

This would also fit with them having a son Anthony.

Are the birth years from 1841 census?

Regards, chesters

[MonicaL]

Hi Angela and Chesters

Welcome to RootsChat Angela 

I think Chesters' birth entry for Jane looks to be spot on going by the second names used for their children. From IGI at www.familysearch.org (free to search/use):

1. THOMAS REID Christening: 11 AUG 1824 Kelso, Roxburgh
2. ANTHONY SHIELL REID  -Christening: 22 OCT 1826 Kelso, Roxburgh
3. JAMES REID Christening: 12 APR 1829 Kelso, Roxburgh - married Jane SHIELL on 18 SEP 1855 in Edinburgh (submitted info)
4. JANE HOLMES SHIELL REID Christening: 30 SEP 1831 Beith, Ayr
5. WILLIAM SHIEL REID Christening: 18 JUN 1833 Beith
6. JOHN REID Christening: 03 MAY 1835 Beith, Ayr
7. LYLE REID Christening: 18 SEP 1836 Beith, Ayr
8. JANE HOLMES SHIELL REID Christening: 29 JUL 1838 Beith, Ayr
   
Entries above are mostly actual extract from the Old Parish Registers, some submitted entries.

With James Reid Snr's early death, hard to say where in Scotland he was from. There is only one daughter showing for them, and she looks to have been named after her maternal grandmother. At best guess, I would say Thomas for James Reid's father, as first born showing.

You might get some additional clues regarding James Snr. from his inventory following his death:

James Reid, 29/04/1846,   Teacher and Parochial Schoolmaster of Beith - Inventory at Ayr Sheriff Court Inventories - GROS REf: SC6/44/14

Monica 
   

[Piglet01]

Hello,

A couple of lines about your schoolmaster here  :O)

Rgards,   Steve

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=RKICAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA599&dq=James+Reid+schoolmaster+in+Beith

[angelasindyreid]

  wow you guys are great,   chesters  the date's I used were age at last birthday on the 1841 census, so they were a bit vague and MonicaLesl look to be far more acurate, thanks Piglet01  for the line's regarding James Reid snr being elected. Now will look on Scotland People for any further info.
Thanks Thanks 

[MonicaL]

Angela

Bear in mind with the 1841 census only that ages were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 years for everyone over 15, children below this age were supposed to show at their actual age. So, someone showing a birth year of 1801 in 1841 could have been born 1797-1801.

Good luck with your research 

Monica

[angelasindyreid]

  thanks for that, i didn't know that as only started looking into this recently after finding family papers that had been put away.
have found references to his grandson Kenneth Lyle Reid in Scottish Episcopal Cergy Records, and St Andrew University Matriculation Records.

[Beckey]

Hi,

M.I. Kelso.
In Memory of Anthony Shiel merchant in Kelso who died 26.2.1848 aged 79 and Jean Holmes his spouse who died 25.3.1819 aged 44  Jane their daughter died at Beith 24.7.1835 aged 31  Mary their daughter relict of James Reid school-master Beith died 25.10.1847 aged 49.

Hope of some help.

[MonicaL]

Great info Beckey