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Salkind Family
« on: Tuesday 13 April 04 01:51 BST (UK) »
Hi
just wondering if anyone has the Salkind family in their tree? They seem to have come from around Norwich and North Walsham.

my connection is Dinah Rachel Salkind b 1858 Norwich.

i know her parents are Hannah Harris (maybe born in Poland - not proven) and Simon Salkind, but i cant find any birth, marriage or death certificate.  There is a Simon and Hannah Salkind and many children in the 1851 census, but i need 1861 census to connect Dinah to them, and there do not seem to appear on the 1881 census.

The Salkinds all seemed to have quite large familys so there must be someone out there


Tara


Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind

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Re:Salkind Family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 June 04 04:12 BST (UK) »
Hello Tara,

I am not of any assitance to you except that I am a Salkind, daughter of Henry and granddaughter of Isadore.  I know nothing more than that except that Isadore may have come from Poland or Russia and id have siblings that are unidentified.  I am willing to join forces in our search as perhaps we may be able to assist one another.

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Re:Salkind Family
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 June 04 08:23 BST (UK) »
Hi JudyLou

I know Simon Salkind was born in london but before that i don't know yet. Someone did suggest poland or russia to me so that is the best place to look at the moment - just have to work out where to look!! But his wife was from poland so that is probably the best place to look for family.

i just went to
http://www.familysearch.org/
and got the following on Isadore, is this your Isadore???

Isadore SALKIND  
    Birth Date: 9 Feb 1914  
    Death Date: 2 Jan 2003  
    Social Security Number:  126-22-1482  
    State or Territory Where Number Was Issued:  New York
 
  Death Residence Localities
    ZIP Code: 94611  
    Localities:  Oakland, Alameda, California
  Piedmont, Alameda, California
 


Keep in touch
will let you know how my research goes :)
Tara
Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind

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Re:Salkind Family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 June 04 00:40 BST (UK) »
I am decended from (sort of) Solomon Salkind (I think he was the eldest son of Simon (who married the Polish Hannah).

I can't see where Dinah Rachel fits in - is she Solomons much youger sister, or perhaps is very eldest child?

Anyway, I only have information from the 1851, 1881, 1891, and 1901 censuses (the same as probably you do), and have no birth death or marriage certificates (other than the marrigae certificate of Philip Salkind - son of Solomon, to my GGrand Mother)

The main reason for this is that it is very likely that I am not blood-related to the Salkinds at all. My grand-father was 'born out of wedlock' to a bar-maid. The bar-maid then married Philip Salkind (son of Solomon). It is not likley that he was the father, and so I have not pursued it too much.

I assume your Dinah was the one who married Walter or George Carr in 1879.

Sorry I can't be of more assistance, but they did had massive families didn't they  :o

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Re:Salkind Family
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 June 04 00:10 BST (UK) »
Hi John

wow - someone that is almost related to me :) (maybe)

yeh Solomon is the oldest son, but i need 1861 census  to prove Dinah is in the family, but SKS is looking up Dinah birth record at NRO for me and that should have a mothers name as I have her fathers name from marriage to Walter Carr. Dinah is my 2nd great grandmother. Father's occupation is similiar to what the 1851 census says, but doesn't state deceased on the certificate in 1879 - but he would be nearly 80. There doesn't seem to be too many Simon Salkinds around so hopefully i have the right one. I have seen a photo of Dinah, her sister Amelia Frances(younger), and a few brothers - no idea who the brothers are (they look very similar).

Would like to know what happened to Simon and Hannah Salkind they seemed to have disappeared, Simon was quite a bit older so probably had died by 1871 and Hannah maybe also died from having too  many children?

Tracing further back will be difficult though as I'm sure that Simon Salkind's ancestry probably originated from Russia or Poland.

thanks for writing - good to hear that there is someone out there who has heard of my family.

Tara
Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind

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Re:Salkind Family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 June 04 07:40 BST (UK) »
Dinah's birth is recorded in the September quarter of 1858 Norwich Volume 4b Page 93.
Her marriage to Walter CARR is recorded in the June quarter of 1879 Strand, London Volume 1b Page 909. The actual date was 12 April 1879 at St Clement Danes, Westminster.
In 1881 census she and Walter are living in 80 Lambeth Road, Southwark
Walter CARR aged 34 Manufacturing Engineer born Lambeth
Dinah CARR aged 19 ( she was really 23) born Norwich
Alexander CARR aged 1 son born Duke St Adelphi Middx
In 1891 they are in 3 Marlborough Villas, Marlborough Road, Tottenham
Walter CARR aged 44 Engineer born Lambeth
Dinah CARR aged 30 wife born Norwich
Alexander CARR aged 9 son born St Martin in the Hill, London
Cyrus CARR aged 5 son born Holborn
Sydney CARR aged 1 son born Tottenham
In 1901 they are in Earlham Place, Wood Green, Middlesex
Walter CARR aged 54 Engineer born ?
Dinah CARR aged 40 born Norwich
Alexander CARR aged 21 Cabinet Maker born London
Sidney CARR aged 11 born London
Violet CARR aged 7 born London
In 1851 there seems to be only one SALKIND family in Norfolk and that is Simon & Hannah as you have already said.
1851- Tooley Street, Norwich St Mary Coslany
Simon SALKIND aged 49 Furniture Broker & General Dealer born London
Hannah SALKIND aged 35 wife born Poland
Harriet SALKIND aged 13 daughter School Teacher born Norwich
Solomon SALKIND aged 12 son born North Walsham
Esther SALKIND aged 10 daughter born North Walsham
Saul SALKIND aged 8 son born North Walsham
Samuel SALKIND aged 6 son born North Walsham
David SALKIND aged 5 son born Norwich
Rebecca SALKIND aged 1 daughter born Norwich
They are not living in Tooley Street in 1861 and are not in the Parish of St Mary Coslany so I cannot be 100% sure that Dinah is their daughter even though it does seem likely, the only other possibility is that she may have been an illegitimate child of Harriet or even the eldest child of Solomon (bearing in mind she was born 7 years after the 1851 census and Hannah would be 42 and Simon 56, although Solomon would be only 19)
Solomon married someone named Eliza
1881 census - Market Place, Norwich St Peter Mancroft
Solomon SALKIND aged 41 Born North Walsham
Eliza SALKIND aged 38 wife born Norwich
Rosa SALKIND aged 15 daughter Pupil Teacher born Norwich
Theodore SALKIND aged 12 son born Norwich
Simon SALKIND aged 10 son born Norwich
Rebecca SALKIND aged 7 daughter born Norwich
Maude SALKIND aged 6 daughter born Norwich
Daniel SALKIND aged 3 son born Norwich
Philip SALKIND aged 2 son born Norwich
Ellen SALKIND aged 2m daughter born Norwich

1891 census - Stratford Le Bow St Mary, London
Solomon SALKIND aged 51 Born North Walsham
Eliza SALKIND aged 48 wife born Norwich
Rebecca SALKIND aged 17 daughter born Norwich
Maude SALKIND aged 16 daughter born Norwich
Daniel SALKIND aged 13 son born Norwich
Philip SALKIND aged 12 son born Norwich
Ellen SALKIND aged 10 daughter born Norwich
Ethel SALKIND aged 9 daughter born Norwich
Adelaide SALKIND aged 7 daughter born Norwich
Alfred SALKIND aged 6 son born Norwich
1891 census - Heigham Norwich
Rose SALKIND aged 22 borader born Norwich
1891 census - St Peter Mancroft, Norwich
Theodore SALKIND aged 25  born Norwich
Simon SALKIND aged 17  born Norwich
Saul SALKIND married Martha CLARKE on 30th January 1866 in Lakenham, Norfolk
1881 census - The Green, Norwich All Saints
Saul SALKIND aged 37 Watchmaker born North Walsham
Martha SALKIND aged 39 wife born Norwich
Frederick SALKIND aged 8 son born Norwich
Maud SALKIND aged 6 daughter born Norwich
Sidney SALKIND aged 4 son born Norwich
David SALKIND aged 2 son born Norwich
1891 census - Norwich
Saul SALKIND aged 47 born North Walsham
Martha SALKIND aged 49 wife born Norwich
Frederick SALKIND aged 18 son born Norwich
Maud SALKIND aged 16 daughter born Norwich
Archibald Sidney SALKIND aged 14 son born Norwich
David SALKIND aged 12 son born Norwich
Ellen SALKIND aged 10 daughter born Norwich
In 1891 Samuel SALKIND was aged 39 and a lodger in Norwich St Margaret (was actually closer to 45). In 1881 he was a lodger in Coslany Street, Norwich St Mary Coslany. He was unmarried.
In the 1880 census Morristown, Morris, New Jersey, USA  David SALKIND is aged 33 and married to a Margaret aged 29 born in Ireland. They have 3 sons Hampton aged 6, David aged 4 and William aged 4m all born in New Jersey.
There is also a Beare SALKIND who was born c1852 in Norwich who may also be related.
In 1881 he was in Willow Place, Swanton Novers
Beare SALKIND aged 29 Watchmaker born Norwich
Elizabeth SALKIND aged 30 wife born Swanton Novers
Anne Rebecca SALKIND aged 6 daughter born Swanton Novers
Harriett SALKIND aged 5 daughter born Swanton Novers
Ruth Gertrude SALKIND aged 3 daughter born Swanton Novers
Evelin Martha SALKIND aged 1 daughter born Swanton Novers
1891 - Hindolveston
Beare SALKIND aged 39 born Norwich
Harriet SALKIND aged 15 daughter born Swanton Novers
Ruth SALKIND aged 13 daughter born Swanton Novers
1891 - Swanton Novers
Elizabeth SALKIND aged 40 born Swanton Novers
Annie SALKIND aged 16 born Swanton Novers
There is also an Amelia SALKIND born Norwich c1858
1881 census - Trinity Street, Railway Street, Great Bolton, Lancs
Amelia SALKIND aged 23 Attendant in Refreshment Rooms born Norwich
1891 census - Hackney, London
Amelia SALKIND aged 30 House Sister born Norwich
 
Hope you can follow most of this. Sandra
Gaze,Flatman, Balls,Nichols,Graver,Gates -Norfolk

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Re: Salkind Family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 June 10 01:51 BST (UK) »
Hi, my mums auntie was married to a philip salkind,from norwich, her name was emily.
Im not 100% sure but I think they may have originated in Lithuania, and were definately Jewish, but had become Christian before or around when Philip was born. He is easily traceable on ancestry . com.uk. They had  a child they called Philip Ivan C Salkind, who died of renal failure in the 20s or 30s, known as Ivan. So a Russian sounding name anyway. I have a photo of him as a young man. He died at abt 23yrs,  I think.  I am in touch with Mr. John Court, and it was his Gran, Emma, that was Ivans mum.(Mums aunt). So ?? if he may or may not have been a blood relative of john.  Possibly. I will hunt out the photo of Ivan for you,(and for John Court), this week and send it. I wish I knew if there was a relationship ,in any way between the salkinds of Norwich and the Baldwin family of Eye.There is something very fishy going on in my fam. history!!  Jo. 50 yrs. Carmarthen.   Ps. my mum went to the same school as Ivan,

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Re: Salkind Family
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 June 10 21:35 BST (UK) »
Hello All. 1861 census for Simon (Semon)  Salkind is on Ancestry, born 1804 London Middlesex, living Norwich St. George at Colegate. When you put place of birth put Norfolk, I found it that way. Rachel D age 2 is listed. Do you know about pilot Familysearch.org?  on home page browse, select Europe, scroll down to bottom UK. There is a lot of resource there, including many films of Norfolk parish registers, I have checked both registers for the living location for 1851 & 1861 census, I couldn't find a Salkind. I hope this helps. MIK.

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 January 11 12:09 GMT (UK) »
 hi all . fascinated to find all this information ! my great grandmother was harriet salkind - daughter of beare and elizabeth salkind from swanton novers. i`m  interested  in finding  beare`s origins - parents or any  salkind siblings he may have had.   ali