Author Topic: Amelia Hyland and Joseph Baker had Cuthbert Baker who married Agnes Wall 1881  (Read 5297 times)

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i think  Cornelia ? and Edmond Hyland are her parents (who had 4 more boys) and Sophy ? and Moses Baker are his parents (don't know if any more siblings) , Amelia born 1830 Joseph 1828 Ore, Sussex married 1849 in the area? who had Amelia 2 months at 1851 census Ore but no mention of Cuthbert yet (he is my great great grandfather) because what we know is born at sea and his parents died at sea? what happened to baby Amelia and why did both parents die but Cuthbert survived, 1891 census Hastings, Cuthbert says born at Eastbourne? he married Agnes Wall 1881 and owned? the clock house at 147 Queen's Road at Waterworks Road, Hastings selling wine/spirits/delicatecense, died 1936 so does any one know anything else about this Hyland, Baker and Wall family please

Jennifer in Ontario, Canada

the 4 lines of my Dad come from Hastings/St. Leonard's (hope you can help Chris and everyone!)

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Re:Amelia Hyland and Joseph Baker had Cuthbert Baker who married Agnes Wall 1881
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 April 04 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Moon

Clock House, 147 Queens Road from Queens Road.

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Re:Amelia Hyland and Joseph Baker had Cuthbert Baker who married Agnes Wall 1881
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 April 04 15:00 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Clock House - 147 Queens Road - from Waterworks Road.

You can clearly see the entrance from Waterworks Road and the staircases to the various floors.

That is why it had two addresses - Queens Road / Waterworks Road, Hastings

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Re:Amelia Hyland and Joseph Baker had Cuthbert Baker who married Agnes Wall 1881
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 April 04 16:01 BST (UK) »
Chris! did you just take those pics! i am so excited! yes, i saw that building last May/03 and we were assuming it was the Clockhouse but there is a reference of a Clockhouse also in St. Leonard's somewhere, i just saved them, thank you, will show my siblings
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Re:Amelia Hyland and Joseph Baker had Cuthbert Baker who married Agnes Wall 1881
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 April 04 16:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Jennifer

Yes, I took these photographs this lunchtime - wife was in the nearby Supermarket picking up a few bits and bobs, I had my camera in the car - so there you are.

This is definitely the clockhouse referred to on the corner of Waterworks Road & 147 Queens Road.

Hope you like the diggy pics.

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Re:Amelia Hyland and Joseph Baker had Cuthbert Baker who married Agnes Wall 1881
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 April 04 17:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Jennifer

Cornelia ? and Edmond Hyland are her parents (who had 4 more boys) and Sophy ? and Moses Baker are his parents (don't know if any more siblings)
 
1841 Census - London Road, Ore
HYLAND Edmund, 30, Hay Trusser
             Cordelia, 30
             Amelia, 11
             Edmund, 8
             Henry, 7
             John, 6
             Edwin, 4
             Lucy, 2
All born in County.

1851 Census HO107/ 1635/ Folio 85/ Page 79 - 3 Hays Place, Ore

HYLAND Edmund Head, Widow, 41, Ag Lab, born Westfield
             Edmund, Son, Unm, 17, Ag Lab, born Ore
             Lucy, Dau, Unm, 11, born Ore
             Albert, Son, Unm, 9, born Ore
             Sally, Dau, Unm, 5, born Ore

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Re:Amelia Hyland and Joseph Baker had Cuthbert Baker who married Agnes Wall 1881
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 April 04 17:40 BST (UK) »
Hi again

1841 Census - Fairlight Road, Ore
BAKER Moses, 40, Shoemaker
           Sophia, 40
           Rachel, 20
           Mathew, 15
           Joseph, 14
           Moses, 11

1851 Census HO107/ 1635/ Folio 92/ Page 142 London Road, Ore
BAKER Amelia, Wife, Marr, 20, born Ore
           Amelia Ann, Dau, Unm, 2 months, born Ore

1851 Census HO107/ 1635/ Folio 93/ Page 142 London Road, Ore
Baker Joseph, Head, Marr, 23, Carpenter, born Ore


1851 Census HO107/ 1635/ Folio 91/ Page 125 Ore Down, Ore
BAKER Moses, Lodger, Unm, Carpenter, born Ore

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Re:Amelia Hyland and Joseph Baker had Cuthbert Baker who married Agnes Wall 1881
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 April 04 11:50 BST (UK) »
Chris, you sure are a wealth of information, will check these out with my records and let you know, sound like all mine! and the pics are great! thanks oh so much!
Jennifer

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they are mine, Chris, will call my cousin in Essex today and ask her for more details of the Joseph/Amelia marriage then will order Joseph's birth record from Summerfield, thanks!
Jennifer