ferdinand fredric rudolf meier

[lila]

thought this fellow would be easy to trace born 1832 germany married mary ann downie i tynemouth approx 1852  cant find any census records for them or children can any one help  thanks lila                                                                                               

[TracyW]

This is a good one!

Have you seen these on freebmd? I only picked up the Sunderland specific births because of the name of the boy in 1864. Can't see any of the names so far on the census records but I have run out of time for today.

Marriages Dec 1852 
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DOWNIE  Mary Ann     Tynemouth  10b 254   
MEIER  Ferdinand Frederick Budolph     Tynemouth  10b 254

Deaths Dec 1869 
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Meier  Mary Ann  39  Tynemouth  10b 110

Births Sep 1860 : MEIER  Frederick Thomas     Sunderland  10a 424   
Births Sep 1862  : MEIER  William John Emil     Sunderland  10a 425   
Births Jun 1864  : MEIER  Ferdinand Frederick Rudolph     Sunderland  10a 485   
Births Jun 1865 : MEIER  Susan Eleanora Elizabeth     Sunderland  10a 529   
Births Mar 1867 : Meier  Clara Eliese     Sunderland  10a 513   
Births Mar 1869 : Meier  Jenni Elise     Sunderland  10a 553   

[SooCatt]

Hi
The 1861 census Sunderland has a Frederick T Meier born about 1860 which may be one of the births listed above by Tracy, but he is the son of a Charles Meier.

I did find this possible one though way out of area

34 Lambeth Street, Whitechapel

Frederick Meier  Head  Mar  29  Sugar baker   b. Germany
Mary Ann Wife  Mar 23
Frederick  son 11
Mary Ann dau 2
William  son 7 months

All except Frederick senior born Middlesex London

RG9 272  f61  p25

Soo

[SooCatt]

I think this is the same family in 1881 as MYERS

8 Phillip St.  St George in the East

Frederick Myers Head  Mar  44 Sugar baker  b. Germany
Mary Ann  Wife Mar 42  Middlesex  St George in the East
William  son  21  Labourer   "               "            "
Carolin dau  17  Domestic Servant       "            "
Emma   dau  14      "             "               "           "

RG11  451  f59  p26

Couldn't see them in 1871

Soo

[meadbh]

I picked the London family up as well but then I found a family tree on Ancestry which says that Mary Ann Downie was born in 1831 in North Shields and died Oct qtr 1869, Tynemouth 10b 110. There are some Meier births in Tynemouth:

Mar 1863 Elizabeth Maire Emilia MEIER 10b 133
Sep 1865 Frederick William MEIER 10b 160
Sep 1866 Emil R MEIER 10b 169

and deaths:

Dec 1865 Frederick William MEIER 10b 125
Dec 1867 Emille Robert MEIER (1) 10b 120

Kath


Kath

[meadbh]

Lila,

I've just realized that it's your family tree on Ancestry! You give a date and place for Mary Ann Downie's marriage - 10 Dec 1852, North Shields. Do you have the certificate and, if so, what was Ferdinand Meier's occupation?

Kath

[fishweb]

Hi Lila,
When searching on the national archives site catalogue it shows that there are naturalisation papers for Ferdinand Friedrich Rudolph Meier from Prussia issued 30th January 1861.

regards

Cathy

[lila]

hi thanks everyone   i know mary ann downie was born in north shields father william born 1785  i dont think it is the london family as i had looked at that census as well not sure about the sunderland family either just dosnt seem to fit but you never know. when i typed in the name into google i found a reverand f f r downie from north shields then i wondered could they have changed name to downie for some reason.thanks again lila

[fishweb]

Hi Lila,
If you look on this thread you will see that you can search the British newspapers on line for free at the moment
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,332069.0.html

I put in the surname Meier and found a few hits which may be of interest to you and I also tried searching Rudolph Meier and Friedrich Meier where I also had hits. It might be worth you having a look and printing the info found in case they fit in with your family at a later date.
These were from the Tynemouth area and of London, also of Prussia.

I also searched under William Downie from your other post and details came up of a son being born to a William Downie a Master  Mariner at North Shields.
 Also a daughter marrying in Edinburgh father William Downie shipowner North Shields.

regards

Cathy