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Offline Rian

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Parish Registers, Fennessy
« on: Monday 31 January 05 22:01 GMT (UK) »
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Please can someone look up birth records for CATHERINE (or ?Katherine) A FENNESSY b c1854 Tipperary (known as Kate). Mother was Mary. She moved to England (Liverpool) pre 1873. I have no more details before she married except that family lore has it she came from Cork, despite census records stating Tipperary. I would love to trace her further back, but she has proved to be a complete brick wall so far!
Attached is a pic of her daughter Lilian.
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Anderson, Atton, Bagley, Banks, Barlow, Bartin, Braid, Carveth, Cleary, Cooper, Fennessy, Frank, Frisby, Garner, Hathaway, Hollis, Hopkins, Irvine, Jones, Karrasch, Kennett, Kirkpatrick, Kirkness, Kopittke, Leslie, Logie, McGinty, Marriott, Meredith, Minshull, Munro, Nind, Pearce, Pulley, Reid, Rendall, Scollay, Shearer, Shorter, Spence, Stephenson, Tate, Warren.
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Re: Parish Registers, Fennessy
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 May 05 08:34 BST (UK) »
Rian
had a look on my disks think your right about Tipp.all Fennessy names seem to be around there and Wexford records don't start for some names until 1865 as you know most of them were destroyed do you have any later children  that might be on hear
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Re: Parish Registers, Fennessy
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 May 05 17:58 BST (UK) »
One question: How have you dated her arrival? Was 1873 when she married?

Presumably you have some information from census, (since you give a mother), can you include that? .
Thanks,
Pauline
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Brown 1800-> Woolwich (Kent)  Barnett 1800-> Woolwich (Kent)
Pannifer 1830-> Deptford (Kent)  Brierley in Staffordshire(Pre-1875)
Walters in Middlesex(Pre-1875)  Clift,Gould in Devon/Cornwall

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Re: Parish Registers, Fennessy
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 26 May 05 00:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Audrey and PaulineJ
Thanks so much for helping with my brickwall!
Apart from records of her children's births (they all have Fennessy as a second name), this (below) is all I have on Kate. I can't find her marriage anywhere, though I believe it must have happened as they were a very Catholic family! Her first child Thomas died in March qtr 1873 aged 0 in West Derby; this is all I have to date her arrival in England. William was married before, his first wife Hannah died in childbirth in 1868 (her second pregnancy, the first baby died too), so Kate and William married sometime in between 1868 and 1872. My mother remembers Kate's death as c1927; she was told Kate came from Cork town, and the man's photo I have (? her father) was taken there. I should really like to know her ancestry and put a name to the photo.
Cheers, Rian.

1881 census    126 Rodney Street  Birkenhead
Kate Hopkins,  wife (head) M  26  Ireland    
Mary  Fennessy  mother in law M  50 Ireland  
Francis Hopkins  son 6  Edmonton Middlesex
Henry  Hopkins   son 4   Birkenhead Cheshire
Hugh  Hopkins   son 2   Birkenhead Cheshire
Charlotte Hopkins dau 3-Months  Birkenhead   
(she died age 1 year),
(No William ? working away, travelling cabinet salesman)
(there was also a Charles b between Henry and Hugh —? don't know where he is)

1891  Census  33 Rockhouse  Street   Walton,
William Hopkins head  52 Manager-Cabinet-Warehouse  Bilston  Staff's
Kate Hopkins  wife  36  Tipperary  Ireland
Francis Hopkins son 16  Accounts-Clerk   Edmonton
George Hopkins son 14  Clerk   Birkenhead
Hughbert Hopkins son 12  Birkenhead
Marian Hopkins dau 8  Liverpool
Lilian  Hopkins dau  6  Liverpool
Albert Hopkins  son 3  Liverpool
(George Henry/Henry George?)

1901 census (from lists only) Walton on the Hill
William Hopkins 64 Cabinet Salesman Staffordshire Bilston
Kate Hopkins 47 Ireland
Marian Hopkins 18 Bookkeeper Lancs Liverpool
Lilian Hopkins 16 Clerk  Lancs Liverpool
Albert Hopkins 13  Lancs Liverpool
John Hopkins 9 Lancs Liverpool
(John died ?1916, there was also a Catherine who was b and died in 1895))


PS I tried to reply earlier and the message was lost. If it comes up twice, many apologies!
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Anderson, Atton, Bagley, Banks, Barlow, Bartin, Braid, Carveth, Cleary, Cooper, Fennessy, Frank, Frisby, Garner, Hathaway, Hollis, Hopkins, Irvine, Jones, Karrasch, Kennett, Kirkpatrick, Kirkness, Kopittke, Leslie, Logie, McGinty, Marriott, Meredith, Minshull, Munro, Nind, Pearce, Pulley, Reid, Rendall, Scollay, Shearer, Shorter, Spence, Stephenson, Tate, Warren.
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Re: Parish Registers, Fennessy
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 May 05 09:00 BST (UK) »
Rian
just been going through BVRI and I find all Fennessy births on hear are Civil births so that would indicate to me that Fennessys on hear were not RC if I am wrong maybe some one will put me right on this

audrey

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Re: Parish Registers, Fennessy
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 May 05 12:43 BST (UK) »

I was given to understand that the BVRi was conformist (ie Anglican) records, and included baptisms (not births).

Pauline
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Brown 1800-> Woolwich (Kent)  Barnett 1800-> Woolwich (Kent)
Pannifer 1830-> Deptford (Kent)  Brierley in Staffordshire(Pre-1875)
Walters in Middlesex(Pre-1875)  Clift,Gould in Devon/Cornwall

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Re: Parish Registers, Fennessy
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 May 05 12:51 BST (UK) »
Just had a look in 1871 and have found the widowed William Hopkins age 34 in Leeds.



RG10/4568  West Leeds Folio  26 
(address is a hotel)
William Hopkins abt 1837  Bilston, Staffordshire Visitor  COMMERCIAL TRAVELLER

So that reduces the window for the marriage at least. Can't find Kate & Mary though.

Pauline




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Brown 1800-> Woolwich (Kent)  Barnett 1800-> Woolwich (Kent)
Pannifer 1830-> Deptford (Kent)  Brierley in Staffordshire(Pre-1875)
Walters in Middlesex(Pre-1875)  Clift,Gould in Devon/Cornwall

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Re: Parish Registers, Fennessy
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 May 05 13:42 BST (UK) »
Paulines right and I am wrong I know they are baptisms dont know why I keep refering to them as births sorry

audrey

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Re: Parish Registers, Fennessy
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 February 06 23:56 GMT (UK) »
To Audrey and Pauline who were kind enough to try and knock down my Fennessy Brickwall: I just discovered (via the Tipperary family History Scty) that my Kate's parents were Thomas Fennessy and Mary Anne Cleary b 1831. She had siblings named Mary, Hubert, John and Charlotte.
(If anyone knows of them I would love to hear from you!)
Many thanks for all your help, Rian.
Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Researching:
Anderson, Atton, Bagley, Banks, Barlow, Bartin, Braid, Carveth, Cleary, Cooper, Fennessy, Frank, Frisby, Garner, Hathaway, Hollis, Hopkins, Irvine, Jones, Karrasch, Kennett, Kirkpatrick, Kirkness, Kopittke, Leslie, Logie, McGinty, Marriott, Meredith, Minshull, Munro, Nind, Pearce, Pulley, Reid, Rendall, Scollay, Shearer, Shorter, Spence, Stephenson, Tate, Warren.
UK, Orkney, Ireland, Prussia and Australia.