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Info on Joseph Thomas
« on: Sunday 12 October 08 18:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,I was hoping that someone would kindly do a look up for me,I'm looking for any info on Joseph Thomas below & his wife,I have this info already,but hoping to go back a little further.I'd also like to know when Gwylim Thomas was born.

The info I have is from the 1881 census on familysearch.org

JOSEPH1 THOMAS was born Abt. 1843 in Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales.  He married ELIZABETH.  She was born Abt. 1848 in Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales.

Notes for JOSEPH THOMAS:
Occupation Coal Miner
   
Children of JOSEPH THOMAS and ELIZABETH are:
   i.   DAVID2 THOMAS, b. Abt. 1866, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.

Notes for DAVID THOMAS:
Occupation Coal Miner

   ii.   THEOPHILUS THOMAS, b. Abt. 1868, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.
   iii.   JOHN THOMAS, b. Abt. 1876, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.
   iv.   DYDIMUS THOMAS, b. Abt. 1880, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.
2.   v.   GWYLIM THOMAS, b. Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.


Generation No. 2

2.  GWYLIM2 THOMAS (JOSEPH1) was born in Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.  He married ANN. 
   
Child of GWYLIM THOMAS and ANN is:
3.   i.   ERNEST GARFIELD3 THOMAS, b. Ponthenri,Llanelli,Carmarthenshire.


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Re: Info on Joseph Thomas
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 October 08 18:54 BST (UK) »
1871
RG10/5383/13/20
not sure wifes name different but everything else adds up
joseph thomas age 28. b. llanelly. occ. coalminer. head.
frances age 27. b. llanllwch . wife.
david age 5. b. aberdare. son.
theophilus age 3. b. aberdare. son.
william lewis age 21. b. llanelly. occ. coalminer. lodger.(unm)
living at;wyndham row,ystradyfodwg,glamorganshire

cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: Info on Joseph Thomas
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 October 08 19:33 BST (UK) »
probable death reg for Frances
Frances Thomas age 29 june qtr 1873 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 201

possible remarriage
Joseph Thomas sept qtr 1873 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 576 with Elizabeth Edwards on the same page

possible birth reg for Gwilym, given aged 9 on 1891 census
sept qtr 1881 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 373
dec qtr 1881 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 394

1861 9 Wayne St, Cwmdare, Aberdare RG9/4067 folio 55 pg 16
Theophilus Thomas head mar 30 (that's what it says on the census!)  coal miner
Hanah wife 37
Joseph son 18 coal miner
John son 16
Mary dau 14
Margaret dau 12
Elizabeth dau 10
Sarah dau 6
Jonah son 4
Daniel son 1
all born Carms,Llanelly

1851 no 1 Trebeddod, Hengoed, Llanelly HO107/2468 folio 395 pg 1
Theophilus Thomas head mar 32 collier
Hanah wife 27
Joseph son 9
John son 7
Mary dau 7
Margaret dau 2
Elizabeth dau 7 months
all born Llanelly

marriage cert for Joseph would confirm father's name & occupation

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Info on Joseph Thomas
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 October 08 19:48 BST (UK) »
wonder if this is Theophilus in 1841?

Hengoed, Llanelly
Thomas Rees 50 ag lab
Theophilus Thomas 20 ag lab
Hannah Stephens female servant 15
Mary Thomas female servant 15
all except Theophilus born in county.

This group appears twice on the 1841 -  crossed off at ref HO107/1379/4 folio 26 pg 5 and again at HO107/1379/8a folio 3 pg 5

possible marriage
Theophilus Thomas dec qtr 1842 Llanelly vol 26 pg 823 with Anne Stephens on the same page
birth cert for one of the children would confirm mother's maiden name
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Info on Joseph Thomas
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 October 08 20:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,thanks to everyone who responded to my request,this is brilliant news,have to check up on a few things,but it does looks pretty good so far.

Thanks again gpaul.

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Re: Info on Joseph Thomas
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 11:18 BST (UK) »
Hi, thanks for everything,spot on,I was hoping that you could do me another  search,to go further back than Theophilus Thomas 20  in 1841.

Thanx

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Re: Info on Joseph Thomas
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 16:38 BST (UK) »
there is this possibility
christening
name. theophilus thomas
chr.date. 14th oct 1821
place. llanwinio,carmarthenshire,wales
parents. william/maria thomas.
ext.rec. IGI
there are another 7 children attributed to william/maria between 1814-1830.
if you want further details then i will post them here.
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: Info on Joseph Thomas
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 19:28 BST (UK) »
Yes please,thank you wozzle

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Re: Info on Joseph Thomas
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 20:01 BST (UK) »
martha thomas
chr. 24th april 1814
william thomas
chr. 3rd dec 1815
esther thomas
chr. 5th oct 1817
margaritta thomas
chr. 21st nov 1819.
harriet thomas
chr. 7th dec 1823
jason thomas
chr. 6th may 1828
james thomas
chr. 27th april 1830

all christenings took place at llanwinio
parents in all cases william/maria thomas
all are ext.rec.IGI
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn