1891 Coleman Herbert & Eliza Completed

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I have records for 1901 census in Plymouth for these 2 and their children.
I think I have searched the 1891 census thru free cen correctly for Plymouth (Anybody care to check?) and cant see them.

But their eldest children in 1901 ages 16 and 14, 11 were all marked as born in Aldershot. Not all records in Hampshire are available thru freecen so I am asking in anyone can find them with these approx ages in 1891 in Hampshire

Coleman Herbert 35, Eliza 26, Herbert E (6yrs), Nora Beatrice (4), Maud M(1 )
 
Eliza stands out from others of the name as she is marked as born in Gibraltar.

Any other information gleaned would be gratefully accepted too.

Many thanks for your help

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Hello
Will post 1891 soon

Pam

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1891 RG12/ 566 folio 26 page 48 Aldershot Hampshire

Army service Corps
Herbert Coleman age 39 Plymouth
Eliza age 28 Gibraltar
Maud Mary dau age 1 Aldershot
Eliza Anne dau age 8 Gibraltar
Herbert Ernest son age 6 Aldershot
Noral Beatrice dau age 4 Aldershot
George son age 3 Colchester

Pam

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Well thats a surprise! Just going to digest that for a minute
Many thanks Pam

Pam

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So if Herbert is 39 then he might show up as an infant in 1851 in Plymouth or 1861 as a 10 year od but I cant spot him. Can anyone find this record with his parents names. I'm guessing father might be George as his 1891 George seems missing in 1901 but there is an infant George F although there is a blot over his age I am pretty sure its not double figures which it should be by then?

Should I repost on Devon look ups?

Anybody know anything about Army Marriage records in Gibraltar as that looks a distinct possibility.

Thanks

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What do people think of an 1861, 7 year old Herbert..looks a likely candidate ?

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Hello
You may have to repost asking for a Gbraltar Marriage

1871 Rg10/2115 folio 117 page 59 Charles Plymouth Devon

2 Filwell Place

Eliza Coleman age 53 widow Charwoman Born London Middlesex
Thomas son age 29? 21? or 24? Gen Lab London Middlesex
Herbert son age 19 errand boy Plymouth
Harry son age 11 Plymouth
James son age 8 Plymouth

1861 Rg9/1437 folio 81 page 37 Charles Plymouth Devon


3 Norley Cottage
Benjamin Coleman age 48 London Surrey Soda Water Maker
Eliza wife age 45 London Surrey
Thomas son age 20 Grocers lab London Surrey
Benjamin son age 18 Gardener London Surrey
Charlotte dau age 17 servant London Surrey
Alfred son age 14 errand boy London Surrey
Edward son age 12 Plymouth Devon
Frederick son age 9 Plymouth
Herbert son age 7 Plymouth
Henry son age 3 Plymouth  Harry 1871?

Could be two lodgers Pitts and Stamforth

Pam

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1871 RG10/5781 folio 136 page 12
Vessels
At Sea Royal Navy   Immortalite

Frederick Coleman age 18 Abel Seaman born Plymouth Devon

1871 RG10/2115 folio 144 page 47 Charles Plymouth Devon

Edward Coleman age 2? Cook born Plymouth
Emily wife age 20 Plymouth
Edward G son age 3 months Plymouth

1871 Rg10/2116 folio 96 page 25 Charles Plymouth devon

Alfred Coleman age 25 born london lab in sugar house
Emily wife age 24 Formally laundress Plymouth
Alfred son age 3 months Plymouth

1871 RG10/ 2114 folio 67 page 17 Charles Plymouth Devon

Benjamin Coleman age 27 lab London Middlesex
Ellen wife age 27 rest born Plymouth
Adelaide E dau age 7
Rosina R dau  age 5
Beatrice dau age 3

Pam

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Hi, thanks Pam.
I am pretty dure Norley cotts are Herberts parents...the reason being as a child I remember being very envious of an enormous marble collection  my father had. I  was told they were used as soda bottle stoppers...of course every child in plymouth would have had a few but It makes me think I am on the right track.

Pam