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1841 Lookup please
« on: Monday 20 October 08 11:32 BST (UK) »
Could someone please do 1841 lookup for William English born 1805 Lamesley Durham.Wife Margaret Born 1806 Whickham. Living in Hebburn 1851

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Re: 1841 Lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 October 08 12:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Aberdein

Wow! 10 children on the 1851  ;D
All stating born Jarrow

Here's the 1841, identified by match to the children of 1851......

Jarrow Wood House - Township of Jarrow, South Shields, Durham
HO107 - Piece 297 -  Book: 13 -  Folio:  -  Pg 1
William ENGLISH 35, Husbandman - Y
Margaret ENGLISH 30 - Y
George ENGLISH 10 - Y
Thomas ENGLISH 8 - Y
Ann ENGLISH 6 - Y
Mary ENGLISH 5 - Y
Elizabeth ENGLISH 3 - Y
William ENGLISH 1 - Y

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Re: 1841 Lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 October 08 12:26 BST (UK) »
Beat me to it Ambley .... what a family
Jean
Lidster, Mellanby, Milburn, Laidler, Peart, Thornton, Catterson, Ellwood, Ingleby, Ramage, Sedgewick, Collinson....... Co.Durham
Ingleby....Derbyshire
Ellwood, Rigg, Gibson, Park, Fothergill.....Westmorland

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 October 08 12:36 BST (UK) »
Hi again  ;D

I noticed daughter Isabella age 22 in 1851,  is not with them in 1841 age abt 12.
And daughter Ann age 6 in 1841, is not with them in 1851 age abt 16.

This might be Isabella in 1841 - the way the Census is written up (the // and / marks) indicates she was not a daughter of couple in whose dwelling she was. But she is probably a relative, especially considering your William and Margaret next child born after 1841 Census  was a girl they named "Eleanor"....

1841:  Hebburn Cottage - Township of Jarrow, South Sheilds, Durham
HO107/ Piece 297 /  Book: 11 /  Folio: - Page: 1
//
Tho's ENGLISH 35, Cl. - Y
Eleanor ENGLISH 35 - Y
/
Isabella ENGLISH 12, F.S. - Y
//

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Re: 1841 Lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 October 08 12:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ambly. I`ll have to have a look at that when I`ve done writing up all these kids

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Re: 1841 Lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 October 08 12:47 BST (UK) »
They're making me crosseyed just thinking of how Margaret would have coped, Jean!
Aberdein - doesn't bear thinking about all the potential  kid's kids!
Just 2 and 10 years apart (ably assissted by  sliced bread, dispoables and electric washing machine) was enough for me  ;D  ;D

And  I think I overlooked mention of  wee  Mary, age 5 in the 1841 who is not with them in 1851 either, age abt 15.

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Re: 1841 Lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 October 08 13:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Ambly.I`m in need of a little help. I`ve just taken out a subscription to Ancestry and have just had my first look at it I can see William English in 1851 but not 1841 in spite of entering all the relevant information. I get people from all over not just Durham. Am I doing something wrong

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 October 08 20:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Aberdein

On the search form - leave everything blank

except:
Just fill in the Piece nr, the Book Number and the page number which I provided.
Enter nothing in the Folio box - there is no Folio number in this case.

They will be on the the single page of results (23 people).
They appear as ENGLIS but the image does show there is an "h" on the end.

Some tips:
Sometimes less is more....I initially found them by eventually searching for
Eliz*  ENG" -  born 1838 +/- 2yrs - residing  in County:Durham and Civil Parish: Jarrow

I chose a very young child to seacrh on  because: in they are more likely to have their 'proper age" recorded, and particularly so in the 1841 where ages for those 15+ was supposed to be rounded. (This was also why we needed to know more about the 1851 first and establish facts of  any  children who may have been with them in 1841, where they would have been born and when).

Have fun with the sub  and happy searching ;D  ;D  ;D

Cheers
AMBLY


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Re: 1841 Lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 October 08 21:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ambly. Pity they didnt supply a handbook with the program
Cheers
Aberdein