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Gage
« on: Thursday 30 October 08 08:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello all

Does anyone out there have any information on the Gage family.

John/Jack Gage we think had a Boxing Booth, he was married to "Harriet", the only known children were John, Lily May, Violet, Daisy and Bessie. We believe there are more as the 1901 census return suggests but they are not known to us, we also think that "Bessie" married, had a daughter who eventually married the actor Alfred Marks her name was Paddie/Paddy O'Neil.

Any info will be gratefully recieved

Thank you

Liz

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Re: Gage
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 November 08 17:59 GMT (UK) »
hi Liz

There is one more child that you do you have not stated  :)

1901
Monmouthshire, Newport
34 wharf rd
travelling van
John GAGE head mar38 amusement ?? own account b Pontypool
Harriet wife 39 b derbyshire
Selina dau 13, b Mon, newport
John son 12 b Pontypool
Elizabeth mary dau 10 b Pontypool
Daisy dau 7 b newport
Lilly May dau 1 b newport
Mary Ann Gwyane? servant 18

1891
Christchurch, Mon
Ropery yard
Clarence Place
(2 living vans , 4 rooms)
John GAGE head mar 30 amusement proprietor  b Pontypool speaks English
Harriet wife 30 amusement assistant b Derbyshire Derby         "           "
Selina dau 3 child n Newport
John son 2  child b Pontypool
Elizabeth m dau 9 months b pontypool
FREDERICK brother single 22 amusement assistant b Pontypool speaks English
MARYANN sister single 20 or 23? amusement assistant b Pontypool  "       "

possible marriage
John GAGE = Harriet NAIL
oct q 1886 
Chepstow   Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire 
Vol 11a  p1


deb :)


Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Gage
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 November 08 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Liz

here's William John with his mum and sibs

1881
Trevethin, Pontypool,  Monmouthshire
George street
Selina GAGE head wid 38 fishmonger b monmouth
John son 20 fishmonger b Pontypool
Mary Ann dau 15 "   b Pontypool
Fred son 13 b Pontypool
Charles son 8 b "

1871
same place as above
Celina GAGE head mar 30 fishmonger b trevethin
John son 11 b Trevethin
Mary ann dau 7 b "
Frederick son 3 b "
Mary Dart unm 19 servant b trevethin

ahh at last we find his dad...:)

1861
Upper George street trevethin
Joseph GAGE head mar 28 fishmonger b Somerset congersbury?
Serleaner (sic :) ) wife 20 b Mon
John son 5 months b Pontypool
Joseph Green brother-in-law 15 b Monmouth

Marriage;
Joseph Gage = Selina GREEN
Jun q 1859 
 Pontypool  Gwent, Monmouthshire 
Vol 11a  p 23

deb :)

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Gage
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 November 08 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Deb

You have been busy, thank you very much, we have found another Gage family researcher,and I have just sent this info on to her, it has filled in a lot of gaps.

Thanks again

Liz


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Re: Gage
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 November 08 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Great ...

Do you need further info?

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Gage
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 November 08 18:45 GMT (UK) »
just a little extra info :)

Selina Green = Joseph Gage

here she is with parents and sibs

1851
Nailor's ? Lane, Mon
John GREEN head mar 68 cabinet maker b Bristol
Margaret wife 45 b Hereford
James son 13 b MOn
Selina dau 11 b Mon
Henry son 9 b Mon
Joseph son 7b Mon
Alfred son 5 b Mon

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Gage
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 November 08 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again deb every little bit of info helps to make the big picture.

Much appreciated

Liz

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Re: Gage
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 November 08 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Liz ...

Not sure about this marriage for John Green to a Margaret ...I did note that she was much younger than him, so this could be his second wife;

John GREEN = Margaretta THOMAS
Sept q 1840 
Hereford  Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Monmouthshire 
Vol 26 p 176

right place as margaret was born Hereford!

oo maybe not ...just found them on the 1841
Monmouth
John Green 50 cabinet maker Not born in county
Margaret 30 born in county ...although Margaret of 1851 says b hereford  :-\
Henry 5 Born in county
james 3 BIC
Selina 1 
john Walby 40 ag lab BIC

okay it looks like Henry 5 above must have died as there is another henry in the 1851 census aged 9 ...found this on IGI extracted record

 HENRY PATRICK GREEN chr; 22 MAR 1843 Monmouth
s/o JOHN LINDLEY GREEN and Margaret

ummm will keep looking around.

deb :)

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Gage
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 November 08 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Hiya deb

we don't know much about the green family yet it's a bit of a sidetrack at this stage, but what we do know is Margaret's maiden name was Walby, so to add credence to your 1841 they must have her brother living with them.

This family history lark is fun

Liz