Author Topic: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)  (Read 26803 times)

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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #108 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 12:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Beth,

Do you know when Frederick died? And who and when Ellen possibly re-married? And when Eileen was born?

I can possibly start investigating with that information.

Cheers

Susie

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #109 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 12:31 BST (UK) »
https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fNAME_INDEXES$002f0$002fNAME_INDEXES:685238/one?qf=NI_INDEX%09Record+type%09Wills%09Wills&qu=Heald

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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #110 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 12:38 BST (UK) »
Many thanks........it looks like his wife and daughter were no longer around by then.

Siouxsie
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #111 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 12:39 BST (UK) »
Eileen died on 10/12/1966 and I can’t quite read the age it was 6_ on her headstone.

I was told she had a sister called Hilda and a brother Fred. 

This Frederick never married he is Ellen’s son.




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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #112 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 13:08 BST (UK) »
I just found a record of birth for Eileen

10 feb 1901 @ Stanley

Mother - Ellen keleher Heald
Father - Frederick Heald

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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #113 on: Thursday 20 September 18 21:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Beth,

Ellen Hutton (nee Keleher) was discharged from the New Norfolk Asylum in April 1897. She subsequently gave birth to Frederick Hutton in August 1898, in Burnie listing John Hutton as the father, however, John at that stage was living in Corowa, and there is no indication that he returned to Tasmania.

Then, I have an Ellen Hutton giving birth to a James Hutton in 1903 and Ellen was in Highfield, Tas (no father recorded), and then Adeline Hutton in 1905 (again no father and Ellen was listed as living in Forest, Tas) then she had Reginald Hutton in 1907 (she is listed as a widow, and was living in Whales Head, although the birth certificate lists place as Marrawah)..........then I lose all traces of her.

It is possible, given these dates, that Ellen (using her maiden name) could have been the mother of your Eileen......and that she then left Eileen with Fred (or his family).

This is such a tricky one, that until we get further clues, it may be hard to solve.

Siouxsie
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #114 on: Friday 21 September 18 14:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Susie :)

From my resource
HEALD Eileen
Father Frederick HEALD   Mother Ellen HEALD nee KELEBER
10 Feb 1901
At Stanley  Reg#3126

I can see no marriage for the above parents.

A Frederick HEALD married Sarah POKE in 1904 at Stanley.  I would suggest this Frederick was born 1878 son of Frederick HEALD and Mary McFADDEN . Frederick and Mary had eleven children.  Frederick Snr may have died in 1917 in hospital at Latrobe, no age on the indexes in this era.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article153924590

The son Frederick died in 1954 - four sons and one daughter.  I can only see birth regs for three sons and one dau on my resource.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article69853390

The search goes on Susie :)

Cheers
Cando



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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #115 on: Friday 21 September 18 21:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cando.........perhaps Ellen and Frederick did have a short relationship, and Eileen was born.......maybe DNA might be the only answer.

I am determined to find her!

Siouxsie xxx
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: KELLEHER, Ellen (Emu Bay Tas) (Also known as Ellen Hutton)
« Reply #116 on: Saturday 22 September 18 05:05 BST (UK) »
Notation that the registrar suspects that Frederick and Ellen were not married when Eileen's birth was registered:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C95P-WWQX-L

Has this been posted somewhere before?  I am sure I have previously tried to decipher all the words in this notation  ???

Debra  :)