Can't read the handwriting yet again...

[Ayashi]

Date of marriage was 1861, I think I hadn't found James Griffiths on census, so I'm glad someone else did! I'll have to look up that census and see for myself. Thanks so much

[richenry]

confused,
 i have james griffiths b.1853 llanwinio and wife catherine living at pantycoed, llanwinio in the 81 census, also residing there is his mother amy b.1812. james recorded as a farmer of  3 acres and a carpenter, pantycoed having been the family home since at least 1841.

[Ayashi]

It's possible that there is more than one place. After all, welsh place names tended to be along the lines of a description rather than a house name "the house by the river" "the house on the hill" so it wouldn't surprise me if we are talking about two different places with coincidentally the same family surname, which, being Griffiths in Wales, isn't terribly unlikely

My James was born 1801-1805, Mydrim, first wife Mary LEWIS 1802, Llanwinio, second wife Jane JAMES 1832, Llanwinio.

[Morganllan]

i have james griffiths b.1853 llanwinio and wife catherine living at pantycoed, llanwinio in the 81 census, also residing there is his mother amy b.1812. james recorded as a farmer of  3 acres and a carpenter, pantycoed having been the family home since at least 1841.

Have you seen the photo of the grave of Elizabeth, daughter of William and Amy?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0an0/

[richenry]

very difficult to read, can see that she is the daughter of william and amy griffiths of pant y coed, llanwinio - which is the address i have for the family, looks like elisabeth died 27 apr 1832 or 1839 2yrs old ?? where is the grave ?

[richenry]

ref the 1881 census that osprey refers to above, just had a look at it, the address is def ffosyffwrn,
ffos - ditch/moat/trench.  y - the.  ffwrn - oven. the occupant is james griffiths b. 1802 former carpenter, this is not the family i have followed, although this james b.1802 may well be a brother of the william griffiths b.1809 carpenter of pantycoed, b. at mydrim who married amy which i followed.

[richenry]

dont think ffosyffwrn exists anymore but the next but one property on the 81 census caerlleon does, its approx 2 miles south of llanwinio. u should find it on google maps

[Ayashi]

I suspected my James may have been illegitimate. His marriage (1870) gives father as William Griffiths, carpenter, and the only baptism I've found thus far is for a possible illegitimate child between William Griffiths and Hester Evans (or at least, the entry seemed to indicate that the child was illegitimate).

Could well be a possibility though, since you say he was born Mydrim, moved to Llanwinio and was a carpenter...

It's just annoying that it's this far back since its harder to link up...

[richenry]

when and where was your james griffiths born