Adamson/Walker

[DarrenO]

Thanks for all of the above, still no Margaret birth cert/baptism to prove that Patrick and Mary are the parents although most likely, seems to be a gap between 1862 (Mary's birth) and 1881 when Mary gets married to Michael Smyth.

William Nugent and Teresa Buckley (nee Nugent) living in New St. on the 1911 census are the children of James Nugent and Catherine Delany, still probably related but not the roadblock beater.

With Margaret being recorded as being from Dublin in the two census, is there missing church records or records not online that could account for this, I know civilly not everyone was registered because it was a cost many families couldn't afford but in Catholic Ireland of the time Margaret wouldn't have gone un-baptised.

[aghadowey]

There could be gaps in the church records or portions that are difficult to decipher but most likely reasons for not finding a birth registration are that it's under a different name (different or no first name given), mis-transcribed, took place in a different area or has been left off the index.

Many, not all, extracted Irish births 1864-c1881 are in this LDS database-
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1584963

[gerryads]

Hi
From researching this family  I have identified another possible sister of Margaret Nugent.
Catherine Nugent married Edward Walsh in Aug 1890.Marriage took place in church of SS Michael and Johns. Catherine full age so born before 1870 Father Patrick Address 39 Upper Mercer st.Edwards occupation Painter. Witnesses Jane Nugent and  Richard Henderson
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mansion_House/York_Street__Part_of_/76338/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Mill_Street/1344653/
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1804650083521
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/2eed620016275

Again I can find no birth or baptismal record for Catherine Nugent.The  lack of records for the family between the birth of Patrick in 1862 and the marriage of Mary in 1881 (19 years ) is very puzzling to us.

[gerryads]

Hi
Should have added another baptism

Baptism took place in St Nicholas church on 18th Sept 1891
Mary Bridget Walsh
Parents -Edward Walsh  Catherine Nugent
Address 37 New Street
Sponsors Michael Walsh  Jane Nugent

[dathai]

Robert Walker transcribed as Walder 27 Feb 1911 to Mary Murtha
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Arran_Quay/37026/

http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6aba856659900

possible son William born 26 Feb 1912
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/59e8590283602

[dathai]

possible 1901 for Robert age 11
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Coombe/1298262/

parents appear to be Robert and Mary Jane Connolly
found one Baptism 1880 for Annie
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/4725650347385

Guinness  Archives have Robert snrs death as 1909
https://www.guinness-storehouse.com/en/archives/archives-genealogy

if right family ?

edited to add marriage 1878
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/981abf0040591

[DarrenO]

Thanks Dathai, you have all the right detail for the Walkers, this side of my family is no longer at issue but does need further investigation as normal. Problem is the Nugents for myself and Gerry. We can't definitively locate a birth/baptism for Margaret Nugent and in turn link the other Nugent's under Patrick Nugent and Mary Geoghagan.

Regards
Darren

[myluck!]

Extreme long shot but maybe worth noting

Margaret Nugent bap Jul 14 1867 in Boyle Co. Roscommon
Parents Patrick NUGENT and Mary GEEGAN
Sponsors Thomas REILLY and Mary Anne CORCORAN

There are no other baptisms to this combinations of parents in plus/minus 10 years unless mistranscribed - I didn't read through the originals.

The reason I mention is that I have one family all born Dublin supposedly but in fact located one in Carlow - never worked out why!

[DarrenO]

Thanks myluck, that's very tempting as an option for Margaret (love that the transcription has her baptised before she was born)

Name:   Margarita Nugent
Parish:   St Peter's, Athlone
Diocese:   Elphin
County:   Roscommon and Westmeath
Birth Date:   19 Jul 1867
Baptism Date:   14 Jul 1867
Father's name:   Patricü Nugent
Mother's name:   Maria Geegan

Regards
Darren