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Gordon/McAndie
« on: Tuesday 25 November 08 00:28 GMT (UK) »
My grandfather James Gordon was born I always understood in the Cabrach area of Duftown. I have found his marriage certificate and he seems to be in Aberlour working at that time. His wife's name was Annie McAndie and her address is given as Dandaleith Rothes. Granda's Father was a John Gordon, farm servant and his mother as a Isabella McDonald but I cannot find any trace of them at all. I have a cutting from a newspaper of the death in WW2 of an Able Seaman David McAndie from 15 Nicol Street, New Elgin who I take it was related to Annie McAndie ( the cutting was with papers belonging to my late aunt that I inherited). We have connections with Reids from Duftown i remember going there as a child I am sure they lived near a burn or river and i am almost sure there was a mill on it. They were a very musical family. Does any of this strike a chord with anyone. Please get in touch it it does. I am attaching a photo of Peter and Margaret McAndie (Annie's parents)

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Re: Gordon/McAndie
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi mrsAird

The closest I can see on the 1901 census for James Gordon is this entry - as transcribed on the index I am looking at. Everyone showing as born in Rothiemay unless shown:

John Gordon 45, Farm Servant Cattleman
Isabella Gordon 47
George Gordon 20, son,Trooper South African Constabeelary, b. Inverkeithny
Jessie Gordon 13
James Gordon 10
Alick (?spl) Gordon 8
Robert Gordon 3
Hendry Gordon 1
Frank Dempster 5, nephew

Address: Mains Of Mayen Cottages Rothiemay, Banffshire

What age did James show on his marriage cert? I can see Annie, born in Boharm, Morayshire, is showing age 11 in 1901.

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Re: Gordon/McAndie
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi MrsAird,

I have found reference to David McAndie (McKandie) who was a Butcher/Able Seaman on the Moray Libindx site (see link below). He was killed in action on 22nd April 1940, aged 20, on HMS Pelican and buried with his parents in Elgin New Cemetery South Section, Headstone reference NE(S)1468. His father was Alexander McAndie who died in 1961 in 15 Nicol Street, New Elgin. His mother was Helen Milton who died in in 1966 in Spynie Hospital, Elgin. David had a brother Ronald who was also an Able Seaman, he died in the Royal Naval Hospital, Haslar, Gosport in 1954, also aged 20. They are all in the same grave.

http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp

Hope that helps a bit.

Lynn  :)

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Re: Gordon/McAndie
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 November 08 21:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lyn and Monica
thanks for this, I searched and searched for James Gordon with no success and also the MacAndie side. I now have new lines to research so that shall keep me busy.
thanks once more for your help
regards Wilma

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Re: Gordon/McAndie
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 November 08 21:11 GMT (UK) »
forgot to say James Gordon is aged 19 years on marriage certificate and Annie as 24 years. Marriage was on 3rd June 1914 at Dandaleith Rothes.

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Re: Gordon/McAndie
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 November 08 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Wilma

The 1901 census entry I posted cannot be the correct James as that one looks to have been born c. 1891. With what you have just said about the age of your James (born c. 1895) I've gone back to the census index, leaving out parents' names in the search and found this entry:

Beatrie Gordon 66, head, Annuitant, b. Cabrach
Isabella N Gordon 9, granddaughter, b. Cabrach
James Gordon    5, grandson, b. Cabrach

Address: Gauch, Cabrach

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Re: Gordon/McAndie
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 November 08 21:42 GMT (UK) »
There is also an 1895 birth showing in Cabrach for a James Gordon that might be worthwhile you following up to see what it says about parents.

Monica
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Re: Gordon/McAndie
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 November 08 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Wilma

This is just some speculation from me  ::) As you have found, there doesn't seem to be a marriage for a John Gordon and Isabella (or variants) McDonald, parents to your James, or none that has been found so far.

Concentrating on Cabrach, I found this birth entry:

ISABELLA MC DONALD OR GORDON  Birth: 18 MAY 1869 Cabrach, Aberdeen
Parents:JOHN MC DONALD and ELIZABETH GORDON

I also found this entry in 1881:

Elizabeth Gordon 77, Annuitant, b. Cromdal, Morayshire
Elizabeth Gordon 46, daughter, General Servant, Domestic, b. Cabrach
Isabella McDonald 11, granddaughter, b. Cabrach

Address: Gaugh, Cabrach

I am guessing this young Isabella is the one showing as born in 1869. I am also guessing that this Isabella may be James' mother. The young grandson James who shows in 1901 with his grandmother Beattrie Gordon at Gaugh, I wonder if her name is actually a version of Elizabeth such as Betsie or something similar (there's no such name as Beatrie and nothing showing for a Beat* in previous censuses).

And there is this 1891 entry that seems to help confirm that - everyone born Cabrach:

John Gordon 76, farmer
Betsy Gordon 61, sister
Elsie Gordon 16, niece
Jane Gordon 18, niece

Address: D(C?)augh, Cabrach.


The only way of confirming any of this, will be James' birth cert of course  :)

Monica
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Re: Gordon/McAndie
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 November 08 22:52 GMT (UK) »
This looks a possible entry for the John Gordon, farmer showing at Daugh (it would seem to be Daugh rather than Gaugh) in 1891 on Scotlands People Wills & Testament section:

John Gordon,09/02/1899, Farmer, Daugh, Cabrach, d. 09/06/1898 at Daugh, testate   Inventory   Banff Sheriff Court   SC2/40/59

May explain why Betsie Gordon shows as an annuitant if she was receiving money from the estate.

Monica
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