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Re: Joseph SMITH Convict to Australia 2nd Fleet
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 17 June 18 05:07 BST (UK) »
This is an answer and possible help to those people searching the Ancestry of convict Joseph SMITH who married Margaret Holmes at St Matthews Church Windsor  NSW Australia,1812.

Whilst there is complicated lineage from this union as both Joseph and Margaret had children prior to their marriage, there is a strong line from their son Joseph b.15th April in Richmond NSW ,died 20th September1856,married Mary Hannaway/Hannabus  in St James ,Pitt Town, daughter of John Hannaway and Ann Edwards.

Their son Joseph SMITH b.13th September, 1841 Pitt Town NSW married Jane LEWIS b.9th May in Green Swamp Mudgee daughter of William and Susannah Lewis born 1842.The marriage took place in 1866 at st James Mudgee NSW.
They had many children,
 
Ida and May b. 1866
Ella  Louise b.1867
Edward H.B.b.1869
Hilda Mary b.1871
Frank Lewis b.1872
Eveline Kate b.1874
Alice Elizabeth b.1876
Roland W Joseph b.1877 Reginald George b. 1879
Isabel Ada b.1882

I have been given various family research from descendants of some of these children,
Ella Louise
Hilda Mary (my great grandmother)
Alice Elizabeth

With some searchin,g the person trying to trace the ancestry of Frank Lewis may have some results from these contacts.
I will send a P.M. to those wishing to find family history.
Hope this is helpful,
Turramurra


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Soratapassenger on  ship to Australia 1800 , PICKUP Lanc, NICOL Sct, Joseph Smith and Margaret Holmes Convicts to Australia 2nd fleet and 3rd fleet

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Re: Joseph SMITH Convict to Australia 2nd Fleet
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 September 20 02:22 BST (UK) »
For people who believe that Joseph Smith married to Margaret Holmes, had a daughter Elizabeth Smith with an Aboriginal woman Mary Darkinjung in 1799 (date from Elizabeths death date in 1846).  It has been proven that Elizabeth is not Josephs daughter.  Autosomal Ancestry DNA results of descendants of Elizabeth and John Bailey show no Melanesian or Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander in their Ethnicity results.  A few of her descendants have Aboriginal from other Known sources not linked to Elizabeth.  To conclusively find if Elizabeth was or was not Aboriginal, a mtDNA test was done at FTDNA on a direct female line from her daughter Margaret.  This test showed a common English haplogroup H1bb, thereby proving that Elizabeth had no Aboriginal Heritage.  We are now actively searching test results to find Elizabeth's true identity.