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John SKINNER Mary BUZZA
« on: Wednesday 26 November 08 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm trying to find out information on my Great Great grandparents - John Skinner and Mary Buzza... I think that they married in Liskeard in 1845, but trying to fiond out where they lived before and after they met / married.

Any help appreciated

Joe

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Re: Skinner
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 18:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi

An unfortunate transcription of Mary's name on freebmd

Marriages December qtr 1845 
 
BUGGA  Mary    Liskeard  9 225   

SKINNER  John     Liskeard  9 225   
 
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Re: Skinner
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 18:10 GMT (UK) »
You haven't given any details of John's birthplace or birthyear or of any of their children so I am only guessing that this is the right 1851 entry

Looks like Dukes Shop St Enoder Cornwall

John Skinner 32 ag labourer b Colyton Devon
Mary 33 b Cornwall Colan
John 3 b St Enoder
Samuel 1 b St Enoder
HO107; Piece: 1905; Folio: 579; Page: 4
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Re: Skinner
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 November 08 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carol,

Only information I have is from my Great Grandad Thomas Skinner's DC. he died in 1932 in Ayrshire Scotland and his age is stated as 74, making his birth around 1857/8. His parents are listed as John Skinner and Mary Buzza.

I've been unable to find another marriage record other than the 1845 liskeard on on the free BMD, so have assumed that this is THE one.
 
Thomas married in Cumberland and was I believe born there


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Re: John SKINNER Mary BUZZA
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 November 08 13:20 GMT (UK) »
1861 (Different family to the 1851 one)

RG9 3951 60 7
Cleator Moor Cumberland

John 35 Iron Ore Miner bn Cornwall st James
MAry 31 bn Cornwalll
William 14 bn Cornwall
Susan 11 bn Yorkshire
Abel 5 bn Cumberland Egremont
Thomas 3 bn "         "
JAne 1 bn C'land cleator
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: John SKINNER Mary BUZZA
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 November 08 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Joe,

Your family are not being terribly helpful

I suspect the family in St Enoder  are John SKINNER = Mary WILLIAMS who married  Jun 1844 St Col 9 83

Your family are in Cumberland in 1861

RG9/3951 Folio 60 Page 7
Cleator Moor
Cleator
Cumberland


SKINNER John 35 Mar b St Agness (sic) Cornwall Iron Ore Miner
SKINNER Mary Wife 31 Mar b St Agness (sic) Cornwall
SKINNER William Son 14 b Laseard (sic) Cornwall
SKINNER Susan Dau 11 b Bramhole Yorkshire
SKINNER Abel Son 5 b Egremont Cumberland
SKINNER Thomas Son 3 b Egremont
SKINNER James Son 1 b Cleator

1851 Mary and the Children are in Sussex

HO107/1635 Folio 127 Page 5
Union House
Ore
Sussex


SKINNER Mary Head 22 Mar b UK Devon R il Lab Wife
SKINNER William Son 3 b Liskeard Cornwall
SKINNER Susan Dau 2 b Bramhole Yorkshire
SKINNER Joshua Son 3 weeks b Ore

Sorry I haven't had any luck with John and I have no idea what the occ which looks like R il lab wife is  ???

Cheers Kris  :D
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Re: John SKINNER Mary BUZZA
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 November 08 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone

I wonder if this is them in 1851

Hastings Union House
Mary Skinner mar ?? lab wife b NK Devon
William son 3 b Lescard(sic)
Susan dau 2 b Yorkshire, Bramhope
Joshua 3 weeks b Sussex Ore?

deb :)

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: John SKINNER Mary BUZZA
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 November 08 10:39 GMT (UK) »
you could get Mary's father's details from the marriage certificate from her remarriage

1881 Harris Villa, Frizington, Arlecdon RG11/5183 folio 51 pg 8
Abel Skinner head mar 26 iron ore miner
Catherine wife 23
Abel son 6 months
Sarah Savage sis to wife 15 servant
Mary Kinsman mother mar 54 b. Cornwall, St Agnes
all born Cumberland unless otherwise stated

Mary Skinner sept qtr 1870 Whitehaven vol 10b pg 733 with William Kingsma on the same page
death reg
John Skinner june qtr 1865 Whitehaven vol 10b pg 330

1871 2 Parks Rd, Cleator RG10/5261 folio 74 pg 69
William Kinsman head mar 43 iron ore miner b. Cornwall
Mary wife 36
Thomas son 13 (can't make out occupation)
James son 12
Abel son 10
Joanna dau 9
all born Cleator except where otherwise stated
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John SKINNER Mary BUZZA
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 December 08 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Guys...

A lot to take in, a lot to get my head round and analyse properly.

I guess I'm comfortable with Cornwall to Barnpole to Cumberland. I had no idea about Sussex or the remarriage of Mary, but it all seems to fit.

Many, many thanks for all the help. Much appreciated and I'm sure I can put it all to good use.

Cheers
Joe