PRONI Will calendar search question

[fmni]

Turns out this Joseph Hill is not my direct relative as first thought such a shame as I've spent a lot of time tracing his line - the 1911 census has helped confirm this. There where two Joseph Hills born within a few years of each other, both with fathers called Joseph - I always thought this one was my one due to the proximity of where I live now but it's definately not - hopefully a trip to the PRO will answer some of my current blanks!

[akanex2]

PRONI press release on 25 November stated:-

"Aileen McClintock, the new Director of PRONI will brief the media at 9.30am on Tuesday 2 December on the release of the official files for 1978, the new database to be launched in January which will make 1,000,000 public records available on line, the new wills database and the future of PRONI, including the move to the new HQ in Titanic Quarter."


Does anyone know what the new database will include and when it, and the Wills, will be available?  The embargoed material released under the 30 year rule is all over the papers but I saw nothing on the other items.

[TF13]

it was mentioned before christmas on here; major stuff apparently! that was besides the wills.

[aghadowey]

At the end of every year the archives release old papers so that's nothing new but I still haven't heard what PRONI's surprise is supposed to be. Dare I hope they transcribed the valuation books that follow on from Griffith's?- there was talk of them doing it a few years ago.

[jwaugh]

Hi All

As far as I know the Electronic Catalogue for Northen Ireland should be online in January some time! 
You can go into the search room in PRONI and search the catalogue at the moment.
You can type in say a townland and it will bring up all the documents they hold with that townland in them. You can also then order that document with a click of the mouse.

See the PRONI web site about the eCATNI project.
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/about_proni/who_are_we_and_what_we_do/ecatni_project.htm

John

[aghadowey]

Looks like you could be right, John. PRONI site says web launch in early 2009.

[sparrow12]

Turns out this Joseph Hill is not my direct relative as first thought such a shame as I've spent a lot of time tracing his line - the 1911 census has helped confirm this. There where two Joseph Hills born within a few years of each other, both with fathers called Joseph - I always thought this one was my one due to the proximity of where I live now but it's definately not - hopefully a trip to the PRO will answer some of my current blanks!

Hello,
I have very recently begun researching my own family history and have found my own Hill connection on the 1911 census  http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Maheramesk/Carnlougherin/199755/

If you found any info on these Hills during your research I would really appreciate being pointed in the right direction as to where I should look for further Hill family history

thanks
Ian

[fmni]

Hi Ian,

I wrongly researched this family before thinking it was connected to mine - I think (and hope) I have held onto the information for you.

Had the lineage traced back to the beginning of the 1800s with them - will take a look this afternoon and see if I can find it.

Cheers,
Mark

[fmni]

Ok.... starting with the eldest Joseph there on the 1911 census, aged 88:

Joseph Hill b.1828 married Harriet Collins b.1829 in Aghalee Church of Ireland on the 23rd July 1852. Joseph died 6th May 1914, unsure when Harriet died.

They had at least 5 children:

Emma b 1853, Sarah Jane b. 1856, Joseph b. 1858, William b.1860 and Robert b.1865

Moving back another generation, Joseph's parents were another Joseph Hill and a Jane Strannicks b.1805 - someone else has researched Jane on the internet and quite a bit available on the Strannicks/Stranix family - her father was a William Strannicks, mother was Mary. and going back one more generation, William's father was also called William - so on that line of your family it takes you back to the middle of the 1700s.

On the maternal side of Joseph's family (our 88 year old Joseph) her mother Harriet Collins was the daughter of Robert Collins b.1802 and Jane b. 1807

Harriett had at least two siblings, Ruth  who married John Law and Henry who married Mary Green - Henry had at least two children, Robert and Anna Jane.

Going back to our 88 year old Joseph, he had at least four siblings, Sarah, William, another William and Margaret Jane.



The majority of these births, marriage and deaths take place around Aghalee - it's unclear when Joseph moved to the farm at Carnlougherin.

The reason I confused this family with my own is that the Joseph Hill I was researching was born around the same time, and also had a father called Joseph. My Joseph settled up the road in Maghaberry - the majority of his family background originates round Ballinderry and Aghalee also so if you're looking deeper into the Hills in this area, be careful as there is quite an overlap in names and dates.

Good luck!
Mark